Encounters with the Shamans
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31-01-2013, 08:24 AM
Encounters with the Shamans

I was curious to hear about discussions/run-ins any you may have had with not just the sheep but the shepherds . My little anecdotal story below is just one of my personal encounters.


Our dog died a few years ago from osteosarcoma; he was 9 ½, which is the average life expectancy for a Doberman pinscher. In the last few weeks all we wanted to do was make his remaining days comfortable and we put topical morphine patches on him that were held in place by an elastic band. Our neighbor from across the street saw this and I explained to her he would die soon. She then told me she could channel God and cure him, something that she had done before with people and that she was sure she could do this with an animal as well. She put her hands on him and closed her eyes and did her thing. Of course nothing changed and our dog stopped eating a few days later and died. When she found out that he had not been cured she looked up at the sky, opened her arms and shouted, “Why have you failed me?” Then proceeded to explain to me this was the first time she had not been successful.

This to me is just an anecdote of how people delude themselves into thinking they possess supernatural powers or gifts, as some refer to them, and how they have been singled out to be mediums between the supernatural world and this one. These people call themselves many things, shamans, witch doctors, mediums, preachers and priests to name a few (nut-jobs comes to mind). The sad thing to me is how they cause others to believe in them. The followers of these people I consider weak of mind but the shamans, those I consider extremely dangerous because it is these people who often lead the masses to commit inhumane acts such as inquisitions, mass murder, ethnic cleansing, witch hunts, disownment of family members, suicide and war.



BTW Are there any or have there ever been any of these people posting on this site?

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31-01-2013, 02:29 PM
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Xinoftruden has recently begun dabbling in Shamanism, so yes.

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31-01-2013, 02:42 PM
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sup dude. I dunno what that girl was up to. This "channelling god" has me confused.

You might want to do some real research before you group all shamans into the same category. We don't all belief in magic nor mediums
or what ever else you seem to associate us with.

and the witch hunts were christianity hunting shamans down.

When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity.

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31-01-2013, 02:57 PM
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(31-01-2013 02:42 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  sup dude. I dunno what that girl was up to. This "channelling god" has me confused.

You might want to do some real research before you group all shamans into the same category. We don't all belief in magic nor mediums
or what ever else you seem to associate us with.

and the witch hunts were christianity hunting shamans down.


No, they weren't. They were largely personal vendettas, sexual perversion, and ways to confiscate property.

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31-01-2013, 04:28 PM
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oh no I've been terse and deadlied.
。・゜・(ノД`)・゜・。

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31-01-2013, 05:09 PM
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(31-01-2013 04:28 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  oh no I've been terse and deadlied.
。・゜・(ノД`)・゜・。


Why, yes. Yes you have. Drinking Beverage

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31-01-2013, 05:23 PM
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(31-01-2013 04:28 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  oh no I've been terse and deadlied.
。・゜・(ノД`)・゜・。
It's going to happen to all of us eventually. Hug

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31-01-2013, 07:03 PM (This post was last modified: 31-01-2013 07:14 PM by Full Circle.)
RE: Encounters with the Shamans
(31-01-2013 02:42 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  sup dude. I dunno what that girl was up to. This "channelling god" has me confused.

You might want to do some real research before you group all shamans into the same category. We don't all belief in magic nor mediums
or what ever else you seem to associate us with.

and the witch hunts were christianity hunting shamans down.


Definition of SHAMAN, noun

1 : a priest or priestess who uses magic for the purpose of curing the sick, divining the hidden, and controlling events


I was only following the advice of Merriam-Webster, blame him Cool



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Person who uses magic to cure the sick, divine the unknown, or control events. Both men and women can be shamans. Shamanism is classically associated with certain Arctic and Central Asian peoples, but today the term is applied to analogous religious and quasi-religious systems throughout the world. As medicine man and priest, the shaman cures illnesses, directs communal sacrifices, and escorts the souls of the dead to the other world. He operates by using techniques of ecstasy, the power to leave his body at will during a trancelike state. In cultures where shamanism occurs, sickness is usually thought of as soul loss; it is thus the shaman's task to enter the spirit world, capture the soul, and reintegrate it in the body. A person becomes a shaman either by inheritance or by self-election. See also animism.

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31-01-2013, 07:11 PM
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(31-01-2013 02:29 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Xinoftruden has recently begun dabbling in Shamanism, so yes.
I like your sig from Humphrey, I think I'll be quoting it in the very near future.

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31-01-2013, 07:12 PM
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I know that natives/first nations/etc here in the states have some pretty good hallucinogenic drugs!

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