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25-12-2014, 09:55 PM (This post was last modified: 25-12-2014 10:03 PM by Mr Woof.)
End Time?
Is this planet nearing end time?
Since human habitation it has endured death, mass suffering, plagues, pestilence wars and murders, along with natural disasters.
For hundreds of years post C.E wars relating to power and religion raged, along with horrific tortures and slayings. The latter day off shoot of Christianity was responsible for much later suffering, but much misery occurred thousands of years earlier, part and party to other religions and power mongerers. Fascism gassed huge numbers of human beings and we have survived two world wars.

Evolution has certainly proved hardy. Big Bang, teaches us that phenomena has been changing some 15 billion years since that major event. Adaption, survival skills. and progressive change, minus any caring vivifying force, sees us where we are today.Or at least that is the belief of many.
One would think such survival and secular growth, greatly enhanced by science would see us in a rather less precarious position than the 21st century sees us. We did survive gross ignorance rather well.

Today some see humanity on the crest of a giant and progressive wave. For some, consumer durables arrive even before requested. In the first world we live longer than ever before, many fatal diseases have become eradicated, the starving live else where, and ever new pleasures, of many varieties, are there for the asking.
Even the natural order to things can be surpassed and further pleasures culinary,sexual,drug inspired, et al can be experienced or fantasised over. Indeed,in developed society, we are almost a new race.

But there is a down side.
As the old saying goes, at least in a good many instance ...."a price on everything" .....a value on nothing".Have we been insanely enchanted by consumer growth and some kind of Dream World mentality.
The silos are ever filled with nukes, child molestations are rampant: as is family violence and the exploitation of women.Porn with it's ever increasing violence, decadence, and evil, gains further acceptance and pseudo value, as does other aspects of the sex industry. Racism is still very real, as is ageism and any other ism that can be utilized to dull our brains as to the selfish core values destroying society bit by bit. We can blame aspects of religion too, but certainly not to glorify a rampant consumer engulfing capitalism at its worst.

Two thousand years ago a God like man walked this earth, who claimed I am the way the truth and the life'. Despite the crazed and grazed multitude of churches that resulted, their histories.....often black, the money spinners, the perverts,dogmatists, freaks, weirdos and detractors,language barriers, myths etc..............perhaps He just was!
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25-12-2014, 10:29 PM (This post was last modified: 26-12-2014 03:02 PM by Free Thought.)
RE: End Time?
(25-12-2014 09:55 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  Is this planet nearing end time?
Since human habitation it has endured death, mass suffering, plagues, pestilence wars and murders, along with natural disasters.
For hundreds of years post C.E wars relating to power and religion raged, along with horrific tortures and slayings. The latter day off shoot of Christianity was responsible for much later suffering, but much misery occurred thousands of years earlier, part and party to other religions and power mongerers. Fascism gassed huge numbers of human beings and we have survived two world wars.

Evolution has certainly proved hardy. Big Bang, teaches us that phenomena has been changing some 15 billion years since that major event. Adaption, survival skills. and progressive change, minus any caring vivifying force, sees us where we are today.Or at least that is the belief of many.
One would think such survival and secular growth, greatly enhanced by science would see us in a rather less precarious position than the 21st century sees us. We did survive gross ignorance rather well.

Today some see humanity on the crest of a giant and progressive wave. For some, consumer durables arrive even before requested. In the first world we live longer than ever before, many fatal diseases have become eradicated, the starving live else where, and ever new pleasures, of many varieties, are there for the asking.
Even the natural order to things can be surpassed and further pleasures culinary,sexual,drug inspired, et al can be experienced or fantasised over. Indeed,in developed society, we are almost a new race.

But there is a down side.
As the old saying goes, at least in a good many instance ....a price on everything:a value on nothing, Have we been insanely enchanted by consumer growth and some kind of Dream World.
The silos are ever filled with nukes, child molestations are rampant: as is family violence and the exploitation of women.Porn with it's ever increasing violence, decadence, and evil gains further acceptance and pseudo value, as does other aspects of the sex industry. Racism is still very real, as is ageism and any other ism that can be utilized to dull our brains as to the selfish core values destroying society bit by bit. We can blame aspects of religion too, but certainly not to glorify a rampant consumer engulfing capitalism at its worst.

Two thousand years ago a God like man walked this earth, who claimed I am the way the truth and the life'. Despite the crazed and grazed multitude of churches that resulted, the histories.....often black, the money spinners, the perverts,dogmatists, freaks, weirdos and detractors,language barriers, myths etc..............perhaps He just was!

What are you talking about?

First: since long before humans, the planet 'endured' death, plagues and pestilence. Hell; it even 'endured' wars, thanks to the likes of ants. Shit doesn't happen just because of humans.

Secondly: "The silos are filled with nukes"? Are you still back in the 70's when the likelihood of them being used was a legitimate concern? Also; you live in a non-nuclear nation anyway... Of course, that doesn't exempt you from a nuking, but it does seem like it would not be much of a concern...
Third: Does less than 5% of total adult male population count as 'rampant'? (the number of paedophiles is unknown, but it is estimated to be less than 5% of the male population, and of course, I'm ignoring the possibility of 'non-offenders' of simplicity).
Fourth: Familiar violence is a big problem, nobody can argue, but I'd say you are overstating it a tad given the apparently declining numbers of cases.
Fifth: exploitation of women? I'll grant you it's still a proble, but I doubt it is 'end of the world' material and minor improvement is still improvement.
Six: Porn is increasingly violent? I assuming you have a citation for that. And something to support your assertion of evil.
Seven: Racism is still a problem; I'll again grant you that.
Eight: Dude; our societies managed to survive the Hippies; I doubt there are many 'isms' out there that could destroy society now.

Nine: What god-like man walked the Earth two thousand years ago? And I'll head you off by saying an angry Arabian Jew who reportedly slung mud into the faces of blind people don't count.

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25-12-2014, 10:52 PM
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(25-12-2014 10:29 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Eight: Dude; our societies managed to survive the Hippies; I doubt there are many 'isms' out there that could destroy society now.

Hey, hey, hey - this hippie takes offense at your hippieism. Got some problem with bell bottoms, halter tops, and long hair? Dodgy

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26-12-2014, 06:46 AM
RE: End Time?
Doubtful, we have been getting along fine for billions of years. We have run into a lot of issues but I doubt this time is the first time. I think if we put a lot of effort to patching the problems we can, things would look better but I doubt any of these problems would lead to something catastrophic like end times, at least not in our lifetime. My guess at real end times would be billions of years from now when the sun swells up and swallows the Earth.

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26-12-2014, 07:07 AM
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(25-12-2014 10:29 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Eight: Dude; our societies managed to survive the Hippies; I doubt there are many 'isms' out there that could destroy society now.

WTF? WTF do you think hippies were? They broke the mold for you to build on. They were the first community to support gays and gender equality and legal pot. They explored other ways of thinking and other religions, breaking the mold of blindly following what you were born into. They were the first ever to be color blind, age blind and gender blind. It's about time society in general caught up to them.

Survive the hippies? Facepalm It hasn't even been all that long and look at the gross misinformation, and widely spread yet. Weeping

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26-12-2014, 07:10 AM
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(25-12-2014 09:55 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  The silos are ever filled with nukes, child molestations are rampant: as is family violence and the exploitation of women.Porn with it's ever increasing violence, decadence, and evil, gains further acceptance and pseudo value, as does other aspects of the sex industry. Racism is still very real, as is ageism and any other ism that can be utilized to dull our brains as to the selfish core values destroying society bit by bit. We can blame aspects of religion too, but certainly not to glorify a rampant consumer engulfing capitalism at its worst.

And this is new to this day and age - how? Replace nukes with weapons and nothing has changed in eons.

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26-12-2014, 07:27 AM
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(26-12-2014 07:07 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(25-12-2014 10:29 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Eight: Dude; our societies managed to survive the Hippies; I doubt there are many 'isms' out there that could destroy society now.

WTF? WTF do you think hippies were? They broke the mold for you to build on. They were the first community to support gays and gender equality and legal pot. They explored other ways of thinking and other religions, breaking the mold of blindly following what you were born into. They were the first ever to be color blind, age blind and gender blind. It's about time society in general caught up to them.

Survive the hippies? Facepalm It hasn't even been all that long and look at the gross misinformation, and widely spread yet. Weeping

*sigh*... That's what we call a joke....

Hippies were considered subversive by a good number of people and some even went so far as to claim they were a threat to society at the time. The joke being the equating Woofs 'society destroying isms' to a non-threat which was overplayed at the time, creating the implication that Woof is no better than people who feared hippies as a threat to society.

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26-12-2014, 07:28 AM
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Breathe. Pass the crack pipe. Now, wha?

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26-12-2014, 07:41 AM
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(26-12-2014 07:27 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(26-12-2014 07:07 AM)Dom Wrote:  WTF? WTF do you think hippies were? They broke the mold for you to build on. They were the first community to support gays and gender equality and legal pot. They explored other ways of thinking and other religions, breaking the mold of blindly following what you were born into. They were the first ever to be color blind, age blind and gender blind. It's about time society in general caught up to them.

Survive the hippies? Facepalm It hasn't even been all that long and look at the gross misinformation, and widely spread yet. Weeping

*sigh*... That's what we call a joke....

Hippies were considered subversive by a good number of people and some even went so far as to claim they were a threat to society at the time. The joke being the equating Woofs 'society destroying isms' to a non-threat which was overplayed at the time, creating the implication that Woof is no better than people who feared hippies as a threat to society.

Oh, ok then. We need a "joke" symbol for some things it seems, I missed the humor entirely.

Actually, the beatniks started it all, the hippies just evolved from that.

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26-12-2014, 08:52 AM
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(26-12-2014 07:27 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  *sigh*... That's what we call a joke....

But you are bad at jokes, so there is that Drinking Beverage

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