Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
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14-12-2016, 11:33 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
And what is Aleppo?

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14-12-2016, 11:34 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
(14-12-2016 11:33 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  And what is Aleppo?

"Shhh, some one who is sick." Unsure

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14-12-2016, 11:34 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
(14-12-2016 11:33 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  And what is Aleppo?

Used to be a city Big Grin

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14-12-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
(14-12-2016 11:34 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(14-12-2016 11:33 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  And what is Aleppo?

Used to be a city Big Grin

He got around! Wink

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15-12-2016, 12:44 AM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
(14-12-2016 11:27 PM)yakherder Wrote:  As shitty as the situation is, with the rest of the world sitting around picking its nose, a stable Syria under the control of Assad is the best case scenario.

And we're not gonna be charging Putin or Assad with anything anytime soon. The ICC generally only charges black people with war crimes, and even in the case of small 3rd world countries lacks the teeth to actually get them to trial once it charges them.

Laws without a means of enforcement, international included, are merely suggestions.

This is reality. There as absolutely no fucking way Putin will ever be charged. Same like Bush will never be charged.

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15-12-2016, 08:46 AM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
(14-12-2016 05:54 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Shit fucked up yo.
The Russians are flattening/flattened the city, without a care for the human civilian cost or international law, for the purpose of driving the inhabitants, who are pro-rebels, out so that the government can rebuild and move pro-government people in.

The Russians did it with Chechnya and now they're helping the Syrian government do it with eastern Aleppo.

30,000 - 100,000 estimated dead.

War crimes basically. Gaza Strip x10. The Russians and Syrians know Obama is lame duck. Trump is coming in on their side. Who is going to save the Arabs?

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15-12-2016, 12:58 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
This is the story of two great imperialism who are competing against one another over a group of small and unstable countries who have the missfortune of sitting in a strategically vital position for the continous growth of those two empires and their respective allies. Each side play like on a chessboard the leaders and rebels of those small and unstable countries, using local wars, threats and sanction to impose their will. Caught in the middle of the game of thrones are the population whose suffering and indignation sometimes reach the heart of the distant civilians of the empires who than call for actions, fuelling conflict with a new flame. Now, a conflict, larger than the other ones is upsetting the balance. For the first time in a long time the two empires are in a position to fight one another and, considering each empire situation, the one who would backdown could see his egemony threaten. But, is the world really ready for war over the remains of Serbia? Once the forces are set in motion very few things can avert the apocalypse. War plans all ask for swift action against the ennemy and powerful alliances back them. On each side there is a strong pressure from an over bearing military-industrial complex who would support a major war. Its voice is strong and they stand to gain from the conflict. Voices for peace are taxed of laxism toward the suffering of a nation, the dangerous militarism of the ennemy and the threats of small countries nationalism to the continuous stability of a region.

In 1914, I would have been at a lost as to what to do to prevent war and save the Serbian population, who had already suffered much following two devastating conflict, from an even more bloody war. Now, I have no idea how one could save the Syrian population from further civil strife (and the purges that a return to peace will create should its current leader triumph) while simultaniously not force a direct clash between Russia and its allies and the US and its allies. One empire is seen as decaying, can it survive a major setback in the international scene? Another is trying to rebuild itself, can its reconstruction effort suffer a major defeat? The same force are at work now and in 1914 and no matter what humanity will loose. Will a revolt against war and its atrocities in all the beligerent country save peace? Since the dreams of Marx no such thing ever worked. We might live in some very dark time. Lets hope we still have some time to disarm the situation. Truly, the Great War did cast a shadow that spanned a century.

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15-12-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
(14-12-2016 08:57 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Assad might find a tomahawk cruise missile up his ass shortly after January 20th.

Ashton Carter (a joke of a SecDef to us military guys) will soon be replaced by the Mad Dog.

Bye Felicia.

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15-12-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
Quote:Hey Muffs. When one can trace these problems back to American imperialism, it is hard to ignore. Even more so now that America is in bed with Putin through the election of America's wanna be Musolini, Trump.

Indeed. And people wonder why terrorism flourishes.

Quote:For the first time in a long time the two empires are in a position to fight one another and, considering each empire situation, the one who would backdown could see his egemony threaten. But, is the world really ready for war over the remains of Serbia? Once the forces are set in motion very few things can avert the apocalypse. War plans all ask for swift action against the ennemy and powerful alliances back them.

It's nowhere near that.

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15-12-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Enough with American politics for a moment, lets talk Aleppo.
If only Britain hadn't tried to manipulate our disadvantageous position with the Barbary Coast Sad

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