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25-08-2015, 11:46 PM
RE: Eric Hovind provides evidence for creationism
(25-08-2015 11:38 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(25-08-2015 05:58 PM)Chas Wrote:  We can toss out the constant (or occasional) meddling argument and theistic evolution still isn't the Theory of Evolution (ToE) because theistic evolution makes a special pleading for human attributes they claim are not possible with the ToE.

It is a) an argument from ignorance, and b) incompatible with the ToE.

Indeed. "Evolution accounts for everything we observe up to the point where the soul appears by divine fiat" is not scientifically coherent.
(did homo erectus possess a soul? Neanderthals? Denisovans? it's a meaningless qualification that only serves to make us inarticulably special)

Not that I've ever understood how original sin is compatible with a metaphorical interpretation of Genesis in any case.

I wholeheartedly agree!

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26-08-2015, 02:02 PM
RE: Eric Hovind provides evidence for creationism
(25-08-2015 11:38 PM)cjlr Wrote:  (did homo erectus possess a soul? Neanderthals? Denisovans? it's a meaningless qualification that only serves to make us inarticulably special)
Not that there is any clear demarcation point between homo sapien and homo erectus. These aren't leaves on an evolutionary branch, these represent arbitrarily labeled parts of the same branch actually.

The labels make sense for palentologists who have only a few fossils, but make no sense on an evolutionary scale. Evolutionary wise it is all just one continuous lineage.

When Christian scriptures say "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

What is meant by image? Surely the god isn't made of bone, or flesh, surely it doesn't need two eyes on the front of its head separated by a nose and having a mouth with teeth and tongue.
So why do many Christians need to believe their god guided the form of humans?
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26-08-2015, 09:29 PM
RE: Eric Hovind provides evidence for creationism
God was a bacterium.

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26-08-2015, 09:51 PM
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(26-08-2015 09:29 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  God was a bacterium.

One problem with that; bacterium actually existed.

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26-08-2015, 10:14 PM
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Just taking the argument to its "logical" conclusion, if we were "made in God's image" and there's no distinctive line when there would be a first man (absolutely the case), then there was no "first man", and the line regresses back to bacteria.

Ergo, if we are created in God's image, God is a bacterium. Big Grin

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26-08-2015, 10:48 PM
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(26-08-2015 10:14 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Just taking the argument to its "logical" conclusion, if we were "made in God's image" and there's no distinctive line when there would be a first man (absolutely the case), then there was no "first man", and the line regresses back to bacteria.

Ergo, if we are created in God's image, God is a bacterium. Big Grin

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God was a self-replicating molecule inside a phospholipid bilayer.

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26-08-2015, 11:00 PM
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God was glycolaldehyde and glyceraldehyde, floating in the interstellar void before crashing down into our early oceans and landing in a foam of phospholipids beside Earth's sulfur-spewing crustal vents.

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26-08-2015, 11:04 PM
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http://phys.org/news/2015-01-aldehydes-i...ellar.html

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26-08-2015, 11:04 PM
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(26-08-2015 11:00 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  [Image: th?id=JN.ouFsRNBL3zKSxXFWBwOB5g&...;amp;h=300]

God was glycolaldehyde and glyceraldehyde, floating in the interstellar void before crashing down into our early oceans and landing in a foam of phospholipids beside Earth's sulfur-spewing crustal vents.

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26-08-2015, 11:19 PM
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"I am your spiritual onesie."

"God made that butthole."

"This is an eight-legged vagina that gives you boners until you are dead. This is not the work of Natural Selection. Nothing this horrible could be created by nature; this is the work of a God."

"My dogmatic crazy glue."

"Jibbers died for your science."

Laugh out load

Brilliant!!!

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