Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
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18-09-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(16-09-2016 02:43 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Comment on the arXiv:1412.6136. The higher dimensions are not penetrable not because they are cyclic (the curvature of the tiny circle is infinite), but because they are additional abstract parameters of the system. Like the coordinate time in Newton Physics is such the parameter: there is no spacetime in Newton Era. How about the Strong Equivalence Principle? To satisfy it, one need to make these parameters the independent from the coordinates of the Einstein's Spacetime. Therefore these additional parameters do appear to us as the fundamental constants in our physical laws. So, an atheist might say together with theists: “the laws came from above!”

Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it? - ResearchGate. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net [accessed Sep 16, 2016].

No. Laws are principles identifying facts that we observe. They come from our awareness of things and our ability to identify things conceptually. They come from induction. The laws are epistmological, the facts they identify are given in existence. They are metaphysical. The laws would not exist without us and our particular way of knowledge.

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18-09-2016, 09:11 PM (This post was last modified: 18-09-2016 09:18 PM by theBorg.)
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 01:43 PM)Astreja Wrote:  call any of them sins, though.
The atheist is divided, there is a crack in any atheist: the conscious says "No True God, No soul, No freewill, No life, No way, No intelligent design, No sin, No evil, No good, No saints, No wonders, No miracles, No theists, No Verity, No authority, No forbidden words, No insults, and all - No. No....".
But the subconscious does have the definition and recognition of any of these No-es. In the subconscious they are Yes-es! Yes: True God, Yes: soul, yes freewill, etc.
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18-09-2016, 09:25 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 03:44 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  If, as you have described it, sin is what you never ever do then....
So, you are capable of doing all? Very dangerous man. If the ISIS captures you and gives you a million dollars, then you would go and blow some house, of white color?
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18-09-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 09:11 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The atheist is divided, there is a crack in any atheist: the conscious says "No True God, No soul, No freewill, No life, No way, No intelligent design, No sin, No evil, No good, No saints, No wonders, No miracles, No theists, No Verity, No authority, No forbidden words, No insults, and all - No. No....".
But the subconscious does have the definition and recognition of any of these No-es. In the subconscious they are Yes-es! Yes: True God, Yes: soul, yes freewill, etc.

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18-09-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 02:31 PM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  Honestly, Titanic wasn't that bad.

Perhaps, but that Celine Dion song in it... *shudder*
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18-09-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 06:51 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  The laws would not exist without us and our particular way of knowledge.
The professors as S.Hawking,R.Dawkins, etc. have told you, what a human is simply a star-dust??? Hello, we are small fishes only in our imagination! We are strong and powerful in the reality. We are the masters in our local, personal world: we can do what ever we like in our home, and in our beautiful mind. Therefore, stop calling yourself ``small fish" and let us teach these fat professors some legal lessons in good manners!
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18-09-2016, 09:37 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 09:34 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The professors as S.Hawking,R.Dawkins, etc. have told you, what a human is simply a star-dust??? Hello, we are small fishes only in our imagination! We are strong and powerful in the reality.

I rather enjoy being a small fish in a very pretty pond 93+ billion light years in diameter.
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18-09-2016, 09:42 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 06:32 PM)Impulse Wrote:  Can you please identify what language that is you're writing in so I can translate?


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18-09-2016, 09:45 PM
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(18-09-2016 09:37 PM)Astreja Wrote:  in a very pretty pond 93+ billion light years in diameter.


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18-09-2016, 09:46 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 09:11 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 01:43 PM)Astreja Wrote:  call any of them sins, though.
The atheist is divided, there is a crack in any atheist: the conscious says "No True God, No soul, No freewill, No life, No way, No intelligent design, No sin, No evil, No good, No saints, No wonders, No miracles, No theists, No Verity, No authority, No forbidden words, No insults, and all - No. No....".
But the subconscious does have the definition and recognition of any of these No-es. In the subconscious they are Yes-es! Yes: True God, Yes: soul, yes freewill, etc.


No, really, please do keep telling us what we think.

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