Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
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28-09-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 11:04 PM)theBorg Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org
Oh for fuck sake...
(26-09-2016 09:42 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The disproofs in the internet are not scientific, they are just wishful thinking.
Remember that? If you could at least abide by the rules you fucking make up as you go that would be great. Fucking peachy really.

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28-09-2016, 11:59 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 11:46 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  He's fueling his own feedback loop.
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29-09-2016, 12:02 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
I find it interesting, and telling, that "miracles" are never examined in a proper experimental setting. By the time someone decides to analyze it, the data is usually tainted after being handled by church officials and at most someone runs a few meaningless experiments and then shrugs. Unfortunately for them, inability to come up with an explanation does not a miracle make.

For instance, in the case of Lanciano the physical component has been around for over 400 years and has been poked and prodded by a number of churchmen of unknown honesty, motives and methods. We don't even know if the eucharist is the original; for all we really know, someone regularly fakes up another one to keep it "fresh."
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29-09-2016, 12:04 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(26-09-2016 09:42 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The disproofs in the internet are not scientific, they are just wishful thinking. {posts Internet link to Lanciano}

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29-09-2016, 01:58 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 10:05 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(27-09-2016 10:53 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  ......
The First Way: Argument from Motion
    ..........
    Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.
    ........
Your sentence assumes, what the energy-momentum conservation law is always present.

If you are going to argue against that then you are arguing against your own beliefs. That line was taken from Thomas Aquinas which you said proves your god exists.


(26-09-2016 11:26 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(26-09-2016 04:59 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  You have presented no disproofs. This means, using your logic, that everyone else here is right.
The True God is proven by the Thomas Aquinas (the 5 ways).


This shows that you do not even know what you are saying. You don't care as long as you say something.
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29-09-2016, 02:01 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 11:55 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(28-09-2016 11:04 PM)theBorg Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org
Oh for fuck sake...
(26-09-2016 09:42 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The disproofs in the internet are not scientific, they are just wishful thinking.
Remember that? If you could at least abide by the rules you fucking make up as you go that would be great. Fucking peachy really.


Heheh. You mean like arguing that Thomas Aquinas has proved the existence of God but then arguing against the very first premise when I say that it proves God does not exist?
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29-09-2016, 02:01 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 10:49 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(28-09-2016 10:15 PM)Gloucester Wrote:  Bit confused are you, Borgie? Not really got the hang of the supposedly theist inspired ethical and moral stuff?

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29-09-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 10:54 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(28-09-2016 10:45 PM)Astreja Wrote:  ..........
If you want science to deal with the problem of gods, first you have to design an experiment that can be performed. If the experiment produces consistent results independent of the beliefs of the experimenters, then and only then can we proceed to the next step. ......
There is the regular miraculous event: every year, in known time, the Holy Fire comes down in the Jerusalem. And the miraculous EM filed was registered by scientific apparatus.

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29-09-2016, 01:41 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(28-09-2016 10:56 PM)Astreja Wrote:  ..... the "holy fire" is merely sleight of hand and perhaps some chemical effects planted by priests.....
Aren't theists simply "dumb"????
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29-09-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(29-09-2016 01:58 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  ..... That line was taken from Thomas Aquinas ......
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