Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
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02-10-2016, 10:20 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(02-10-2016 12:50 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(02-10-2016 10:26 AM)theBorg Wrote:  In such cases you should repeat the question. Thank you.
For the forth time? Eh, standard fair for you. OK than I'll bite, once more with feeling.

Does causality, the law of cause and effect, exist in nothingness? ..........

The nothingness here is ripped from its context. Look, the context:
Quote:The sentence "nothingness prior to the Creation of Universe" means: no space-time (no gravity either), and no baryon matter.

Is here something said about causality? No, isn't it?

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02-10-2016, 10:36 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(02-10-2016 10:20 PM)theBorg Wrote:  P.S. Friends, I record somewhat low activity in
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...an-no-gods
Please, boost it up!

Why? It's just the same tired old "True God" pig shit as in all your other threads.
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03-10-2016, 11:04 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(02-10-2016 10:20 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The nothingness here is ripped from its context. Look, the context:

Is here something said about causality? No, isn't it?

What fucking part of....
(02-10-2016 12:50 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  Yes
or
No

Pick one, I'm not interested in your typical tendency to run about saying nonsense and not answering questions kid, so just pick yes or no.
.. did you not understand? Was it the big words, the small words, or just all those individual letters as a whole that made you so stupid you couldn't make a binary choice? Fuck it I'll do it myself.

The correct answer is no, by virtue of the very definition of the word "nothing" there are now laws governing that state and that includes cause and effect. If there are no laws, if cause and effect does not exist in the nothing "before" the universe, and it can't, then there is absolutely nothing preventing a universe emerging from that nothing without a cause.Facepalm

Why am I even trying to explain this to you?

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04-10-2016, 07:12 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(02-10-2016 10:20 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Is here something said about causality? No, isn't it? [...]

Can you please show us some respect and post in English. Your absurd, puerile comments are difficult enough to comprehend [sic] without having to resort to Google Translate. Thank you.

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04-10-2016, 08:02 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
Goddamn borg. Try tightening up your asshole and not letting out a spray of nonsense diarrhea just for one fucking day. At least try to keep it all stinking in a heap in one thread. you can't even address all the responses in your original thread yet continue to create more topics. Next time a new topic starts brewing up just suck it back in.
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12-10-2016, 11:28 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(03-10-2016 11:04 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  ...........
The correct answer is no, by virtue of the very definition of the word "nothing" there are now laws governing that state and that includes cause and effect. .......

You are free to imagine what's ever, but you are not allowed to rip the nothingness from the context:

The sentence "nothingness prior to Universe" is the absence of space-time and the matter.

You can not study it, because it is the divine wonder.
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12-10-2016, 11:47 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(12-10-2016 11:28 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 11:04 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  ...........
The correct answer is no, by virtue of the very definition of the word "nothing" there are now laws governing that state and that includes cause and effect. .......

You are free to imagine what's ever, but you are not allowed to rip the nothingness from the context:

The sentence "nothingness prior to Universe" is the absence of space-time and the matter.

You can not study it, because it is the divine wonder.
No one cares bitch.
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13-10-2016, 05:35 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
So when or if the day comes where we could discover the driving force prior to the big bang. Where would your "true god" hide then?

Answer: The same place he's always hidden. In the imagination of misinformed fools.

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18-10-2016, 08:40 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(03-10-2016 11:04 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  ............
Why am I even trying to explain this to you?

Because you have a caring heart, which feels the sympathy. Heart
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18-10-2016, 10:12 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-10-2016 08:40 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 11:04 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  ............
Why am I even trying to explain this to you?

Because you have a caring heart, which feels the sympathy. Heart
No. I'd say it's more like he has the morbid curiosity of someone driving by a particularly gruesome car accident.

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