Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
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17-09-2016, 09:25 PM (This post was last modified: 17-09-2016 09:31 PM by theBorg.)
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 04:17 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Divine intervention, not so much.
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17-09-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 09:19 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(17-09-2016 12:27 PM)kim Wrote:  Ok, I can only guess ... with your reference to the cosmological constant, you might be assuming the more recent ideas about dark energy to be ...
yeh, if the cosmological constant is in fact constant, then it came from above! "From above" at least in the sense of my post, ie. from the additional dimension.

"... additional dimension." .

Oh swell.
This one's ... out there. Dodgy

Dude, I was out there, when your parental units were an itch in their parental unit's protons.

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It's up to you, really. If you want to go all dimensional and shit, you can't have a constant.
Well, you can but... you won't see it until you look for it ... and then it probably won't be what you thought it was going to be.

See what you did?

I didn't tell you to go fuck yourself. Nope, not me. Shy

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17-09-2016, 09:51 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 03:41 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  magical rules which govern their tiny world could descend from "above".
According to 5D theory, our Universe is on the special 4D surface of the constant parameters in 5D model (we call them the fundamental constants: c, G, k, alpha, Lambda, etc...), the world with different parameters (the different fundamental constants) is, simply said, "above" our Universe. The word "above" was chosen between these two "below", and "above". Because the word "below" might refer to satanism in the mind of the theistic reader. But I hate to make the theists uncomfortable.
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17-09-2016, 09:56 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 09:36 PM)kim Wrote:  If you want to go all dimensional and shit, you can't have a constant.
According to 5D theory, the fundamental constants are in fact constants in our 4D Universe.
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17-09-2016, 10:10 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 09:19 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(17-09-2016 12:27 PM)kim Wrote:  Ok, I can only guess ... with your reference to the cosmological constant, you might be assuming the more recent ideas about dark energy to be ...
yeh, if the cosmological constant is in fact constant, then it came from above! "From above" at least in the sense of my post, ie. from the additional dimension.

That is not "from above". That is a direction in 3-dimensional space and a pretty arbitrary one as RocketSurgeon pointed out. That is "from right angles to reality".

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17-09-2016, 10:17 PM
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(17-09-2016 09:51 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(17-09-2016 03:41 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  magical rules which govern their tiny world could descend from "above".
According to 5D theory, our Universe is on the special 4D surface of the constant parameters in 5D model (we call them the fundamental constants: c, G, k, alpha, Lambda, etc...), the world with different parameters (the different fundamental constants) is, simply said, "above" our Universe. The word "above" was chosen between these two "below", and "above". Because the word "below" might refer to satanism in the mind of the theistic reader. But I hate to make the theists uncomfortable.

I'm sorry, but your inability to understand how LIGO measures fluctuations in space-time pretty much blows your credibility to itty bitty pieces with respect to any sort of cosmology.

But hey, if you need to add extra dimensions to hide your imaginary friend in...

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17-09-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 10:17 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  But hey, if you need to add extra dimensions to hide your imaginary friend in...
The True God is omnipresent, He is also here and now. P.S. Why you so hate the word "imaginary"? Isn't it the mass of the Higgs Field an imaginary number?
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17-09-2016, 10:49 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 09:25 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(17-09-2016 04:17 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Divine intervention, not so much.
Would you like to be forced to be perfect saint? Do you smoke? 10 years in prison! Do you "love" your gender? 20 years in prison! Are you related (it means: like, making, support, etc) with abortions? 100 years in prison! Are you really ready for life in timeless Heavenly Kingdom?
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17-09-2016, 11:21 PM (This post was last modified: 17-09-2016 11:25 PM by kim.)
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 10:40 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(17-09-2016 10:17 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  But hey, if you need to add extra dimensions to hide your imaginary friend in...
The True God is omnipresent, He is also here and now. P.S. Why you so hate the word "imaginary"? Isn't it the mass of the Higgs Field an imaginary number?

Uhm ... fucking no. Shy

Mass is "provided" to particles from the Higgs field, via the higgs bosons which contain the relative mass in the form of energy. If the Higgs field did not exist, particles would not have the mass required to attract one another, and would float around freely at light speed. Also gravity would not exist because mass would not be there to attract other mass.
There is a fair amount of accuracy required and the mass of the Higgs Field is not imaginary rather, it is predicted. So... not sure where you're getting that "imaginary number" thingy.


Consider Perhaps you're confused because it's a wave ... ? When light passes through it, it gains energy, not mass... Is that why you're an idiot? Shy

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18-09-2016, 12:29 AM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 10:10 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  That is not "from above". That is a direction in 3-dimensional space
The 4D theory is simply the reduction from the theory in 5D. The reduction from magnitude 5 into magnitude 4, is surely the "coming from the above number."
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