Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
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18-09-2016, 01:49 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(16-09-2016 02:43 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Comment on the arXiv:1412.6136. The higher dimensions are not penetrable not because they are cyclic (the curvature of the tiny circle is infinite), but because they are additional abstract parameters of the system. Like the coordinate time in Newton Physics is such the parameter: there is no spacetime in Newton Era. How about the Strong Equivalence Principle? To satisfy it, one need to make these parameters the independent from the coordinates of the Einstein's Spacetime. Therefore these additional parameters do appear to us as the fundamental constants in our physical laws. So, an atheist might say together with theists: “the laws came from above!”

Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it? - ResearchGate. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net [accessed Sep 16, 2016].

HUH? Ya don't say, ya don't say!
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18-09-2016, 02:19 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 01:43 PM)Astreja Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 07:01 AM)theBorg Wrote:  The sin is what you never ever do, you rather die, than do a sin.

Then sin doesn't exist in My world. I don't really see the point of dying in order to avoid doing something. Either the action is entirely appropriate (for instance, telling an abusive and narcissistic parent to fuck off, or betraying one's country in order to save lives), or it is a forced action, or it is the result of a psychiatric condition, or it simply isn't as bad as you think it is.

There are many things that I absolutely refuse to do:
  • No intention of ever reuniting with My ex-spouse, whom I haven't even spoken to in over 16 years.
  • Never said the Sinner's Prayer, and don't intend to.
  • Not intending to read any of the Twilight books or watch the movies Titanic or Passion of the Christ.
  • Smoked oysters are right out.
I wouldn't call any of them sins, though.

It is a sin that you reject smoked oysters. Angry

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18-09-2016, 02:20 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 01:43 PM)Astreja Wrote:  There are many things that I absolutely refuse to do:
[*]Not intending to read any of the Twilight books or watch the movies Titanic or Passion of the Christ.

'No Torture Porn' is a pretty good rule to live by. Thumbsup

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18-09-2016, 02:25 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(17-09-2016 09:25 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(17-09-2016 04:17 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Divine intervention, not so much.
Would you like to be forced to be perfect saint? Do you smoke? 10 years in prison! Do you "love" your gender? 20 years in prison! Are you related (it means: like, making, support, etc) with abortions? 100 years in prison! Are you really ready for life in timeless Heavenly Kingdom?
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Is that supposed to be heaven? Is it always so... lit up? Way too fucking bright. I prefer the darkness. Pass.
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18-09-2016, 02:29 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 07:01 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 03:34 AM)Gloucester Wrote:  Please define "sin" in non-religious concepts.
There are many things, what you prefer to be slowly and painfully killed, than to do them: 1) betraying your homeland, 2) saying f-word to your father, 3) pissing onto your child's grave. 4) etc. All this is sin. The sin is what you never ever do, you rather die, than do a sin.

Pissing on your child's grave...?

Uh, I seriously hope you got these ideas from someone else. You're a weird and sick bastard otherwise. Do you just sit around and think up this shit and resist not doing it?
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18-09-2016, 02:31 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 01:43 PM)Astreja Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 07:01 AM)theBorg Wrote:  The sin is what you never ever do, you rather die, than do a sin.

Then sin doesn't exist in My world. I don't really see the point of dying in order to avoid doing something. Either the action is entirely appropriate (for instance, telling an abusive and narcissistic parent to fuck off, or betraying one's country in order to save lives), or it is a forced action, or it is the result of a psychiatric condition, or it simply isn't as bad as you think it is.

There are many things that I absolutely refuse to do:
  • No intention of ever reuniting with My ex-spouse, whom I haven't even spoken to in over 16 years.
  • Never said the Sinner's Prayer, and don't intend to.
  • Not intending to read any of the Twilight books or watch the movies Titanic or Passion of the Christ.
  • Smoked oysters are right out.
I wouldn't call any of them sins, though.

Honestly, Titanic wasn't that bad.
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18-09-2016, 02:52 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 02:31 PM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 01:43 PM)Astreja Wrote:  Then sin doesn't exist in My world. I don't really see the point of dying in order to avoid doing something. Either the action is entirely appropriate (for instance, telling an abusive and narcissistic parent to fuck off, or betraying one's country in order to save lives), or it is a forced action, or it is the result of a psychiatric condition, or it simply isn't as bad as you think it is.

There are many things that I absolutely refuse to do:
  • No intention of ever reuniting with My ex-spouse, whom I haven't even spoken to in over 16 years.
  • Never said the Sinner's Prayer, and don't intend to.
  • Not intending to read any of the Twilight books or watch the movies Titanic or Passion of the Christ.
  • Smoked oysters are right out.
I wouldn't call any of them sins, though.

Honestly, Titanic wasn't that bad.

But smoked oysters look (and probably feel and taste) like elephants' snot.

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18-09-2016, 03:44 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 07:01 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 03:34 AM)Gloucester Wrote:  Please define "sin" in non-religious concepts.
There are many things, what you prefer to be slowly and painfully killed, than to do them: 1) betraying your homeland, 2) saying f-word to your father, 3) pissing onto your child's grave. 4) etc. All this is sin. The sin is what you never ever do, you rather die, than do a sin.
If, as you have described it, sin is what you never ever do then.... no one ever ever sins making the ENTIRE FUCKING CONCEPT of "sin" pointless. You have defined it in such a way that it can't even exist theoretically. If sin is a thing you would rather die then do, but if you do it then you'd obviously rather NOT die then do it, so therefor it's not a sin, because sin is what you would rather die then do.

Fuck me but you are a super saiyan of stupid.

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18-09-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(18-09-2016 02:52 PM)Gloucester Wrote:  
(18-09-2016 02:31 PM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  Honestly, Titanic wasn't that bad.

But smoked oysters look (and probably feel and taste) like elephants' snot.


No argument here.
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18-09-2016, 06:32 PM
RE: Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it?
(16-09-2016 02:43 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Comment on the arXiv:1412.6136. The higher dimensions are not penetrable not because they are cyclic (the curvature of the tiny circle is infinite), but because they are additional abstract parameters of the system. Like the coordinate time in Newton Physics is such the parameter: there is no spacetime in Newton Era. How about the Strong Equivalence Principle? To satisfy it, one need to make these parameters the independent from the coordinates of the Einstein's Spacetime. Therefore these additional parameters do appear to us as the fundamental constants in our physical laws. So, an atheist might say together with theists: “the laws came from above!”

Even an atheist can say "the laws came from above", isn't it? - ResearchGate. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net [accessed Sep 16, 2016].
Can you please identify what language that is you're writing in so I can translate? Blink

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