Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
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12-04-2014, 11:11 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2014 11:15 PM by Smercury44.)
Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
We're giving you a run for your money. WTAF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Facepalm

The separation of church and state is no more

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12-04-2014, 11:27 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2014 11:37 PM by TheGulegon.)
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
(12-04-2014 11:11 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  We're giving you a run for your money. WTAF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Facepalm

The separation of church and state is no more

When I first read the thread title I thought you were talking about that storm Laugh out load
Though how better to spend a rainy day than reading about idiots Wink Tongue

[edit] I know everybody's smiling in that photo, but... that kid... idk! He looks shifty Tongue

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12-04-2014, 11:50 PM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
It's gonna get worse before it gets better. The death throes of religion are upon us, or so I like to imagine.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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12-04-2014, 11:51 PM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
Damnit we can hope, this shit is just crazy No

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13-04-2014, 12:04 AM (This post was last modified: 13-04-2014 12:09 AM by evenheathen.)
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
Honestly, I like the crazy. It means that there isn't 100% consensus around us that the historical statistic of christian right wing lunacy is actually in charge anymore. I revel in the fact that change is abrewin.

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13-04-2014, 12:21 AM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
(12-04-2014 11:11 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  We're giving you a run for your money. WTAF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Facepalm

The separation of church and state is no more

Yeah....Blink
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13-04-2014, 06:53 AM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
This actually surprises me.

I was under the impression that Iowa was one of the more liberal/progressive states in the midwest.
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13-04-2014, 08:00 AM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
Ugh, how awful. I just read Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale (1985), which is a dystopic science fiction novel. Society basically follows old testament law and has no separation of church and state. Yeah, it's a novel and is totally extreme, but then I see stories like this and I get concerned. Where can we go from here? Where do the people who want to abolish separation of church and state want it to end?

Also, I know I'm 30 years behind the times, but I totally recommend the book if you're interested in novels about feminism, separation of church and state, or dystopian futures.

http://dignitywithoutfear.blogspot.com/
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13-04-2014, 09:00 AM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
Yeah, that's bad. No

In related news...

Mississippi passed a "religious liberty bill" similar the one that failed in Arizona which included adding the phrase "In God We Trust" to the state seal.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/...tisan.html

The Louisiana legislature is in the process of trying to make the Bible the state book. A move which according them in no way endorses Christianity. I'm still not sure how they can say that with a straight face. Consider

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/...tate-book/

North Carolina's adoption of the Columbian Mamoth as the state fossil includes this nonesense in the official language:

Section 1-1-712A. The Columbian Mammoth, which was created on the Sixth Day with the other beasts of the field, is designated as the official State Fossil of South Carolina and must be officially referred to as the 'Columbian Mammoth', which was created on the Sixth Day with the other beasts of the field.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news...74/?no-ist

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13-04-2014, 12:27 PM
RE: Evenheathen you may have it bad in Kansas, but in Iowa....
(13-04-2014 06:53 AM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  This actually surprises me.

I was under the impression that Iowa was one of the more liberal/progressive states in the midwest.

We really are in some ways. First to legalize interracial marriage, one of the first to legalize gay marriage. I hardly ever hear people talk about church or religion, maybe three or four time a year. But we are way behind on marijuana legalization (not even medicinally legal yet), and now this Dodgy brandstad is not a good guy No

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