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18-10-2016, 05:13 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
Here are four pretty clear verses, supposedly direct quotes of Jesus, about when he would come back:

Matthew 24:34- Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Mark 13:30 -Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

Luke 9:27 -But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

Luke 21:32 -Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus speaks pretty clearly of the generation he was in not passing before he returns, then he tells his disciples directly that some of them will not taste of death before he returns.

Apocalyptic preachers can't pretend that he meant the Jewish nation or something else. He should have returned about 2000 years ago, and he didn't.

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18-10-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
i believe word by word. and i saw history channel and it said that constatin saw a cross in the sky while in battle but hes the leader of all the angels that makes sence something like osirus i believe talk about a person being sacrificed and they all come together to say the same thing gods are just angels but having super powers people percieved them as gods. and could it be this generation were coming to the end of the aryan epoch in theosophy terms could jesus be talking about that becuase revelation also says not everybody is going to die after the antichrist.
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18-10-2016, 08:40 AM
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Oh dear. Using the History Channel as a reference...
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18-10-2016, 08:56 AM
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(18-10-2016 08:35 AM)socialistview Wrote:  i believe word by word.

So you are gullible. Noted.

Quote:and i saw history channel and it said that constatin saw a cross in the sky while in battle

People see all sorts of things when they look at the sky. Pareidolia is a common phenomenon and doesn't mean anything.

Quote:but hes the leader of all the angels that makes sence something like osirus i believe talk about a person being sacrificed and they all come together to say the same thing gods are just angels but having super powers people percieved them as gods.

Wow. Punctuation is your friend, not your enemy. Verbal diarrhea doesn't do much to get a point across.

Quote:and could it be this generation were coming to the end of the aryan epoch in theosophy terms could jesus be talking about that becuase revelation also says not everybody is going to die after the antichrist.

People have been proclaiming that they were living in the end times for at least 2000 years. Here's a short list of ones we know about. Come back when you have any actual evidence. Free clue: anonymous bronze and iron age writings with no supporting evidence don't count.

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18-10-2016, 08:57 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

On What basis do you believe there is a god in the first place? Is it the Bible that is your basis? So you read the Bible and you believed it. So what? Many other people read a different book and believed it. Did you examine the fundamental premises which the Bible assumes? I'm not talking about rules. Rules are not fundamentals. They are derived from fundamentals. What is the most Fundamental Principle in the Bible? I'll give you a hint. It is not stated explicitly. You'll need to do a little philosophical detective work to find it, but it is there? I know what it is but I'm betting you don't. Can you name it?

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18-10-2016, 09:02 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 08:35 AM)socialistview Wrote:  i believe word by word. and i saw history channel and it said that constatin saw a cross in the sky while in battle...

i saw history channel shark week say fishermen say Megalodon still exist...true dat

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18-10-2016, 09:43 AM
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(18-10-2016 08:35 AM)socialistview Wrote:  i believe word by word. and i saw history channel and it said...

The "History" Channel??? The same source that brings us:


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Perhaps you should reconsider your sources.

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18-10-2016, 09:50 AM (This post was last modified: 18-10-2016 09:58 AM by socialistview.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
i find the bible to be true you just have to read it and the truth will set you free and its all about having faith that jesus died and rose again to be the first to recieve eternal life. read 2 timothy 3 theres alot about the time of the apocalypse, gods promise does not come back void. and the fundamentals is to care for one another the law was made so we can be aware of the effects we have on others and thing.
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18-10-2016, 10:10 AM
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(18-10-2016 09:50 AM)socialistview Wrote:  i find the bible to be true you just have to read it and the truth will set you free and its all about having faith that jesus died and rose again to be the first to recieve eternal life. read 2 timothy 3 theres alot about the time of the apocalypse, gods promise does not come back void. and the fundamentals is to care for one another the law was made so we can be aware of the effects we have on others and thing.

Shouldn't you be in the arena with borg?
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18-10-2016, 10:11 AM
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(18-10-2016 09:50 AM)socialistview Wrote:  i find the bible to be true you just have to read it

Believing something without good evidence is not rational. The bible is a book with a very long, convoluted history and it contains some historically accurate things, some fictional events, some good advice, and some bad advice. There is absolutely nothing about it that can't be explained as the product of the society that existed when the different parts were written.

Quote:and the truth will set you free and its all about having faith that jesus died and rose again to be the first to recieve eternal life. read read 2 timothy 3 theres alot about the time of the apocalypse, gods promise does not come back void.

Faith is not a path to truth; you can believe anything at all using faith. Faith is just gullibility.

Quoting bible passages at atheists is pointless unless you can provide some reason to believe there is any truth behind the claims. It is of no more value than quoting prophecies from Star Trek, Star Wars ,or The Lord of The Rings (all of which are better written and more internally consistent than any of the versions of the xian bible).

I gather from your response that you can't actually support any of your beliefs. Why would anybody hold a belief that they have no justification for and be proud of that?

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