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17-11-2016, 05:56 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  So forgive him for coming here and shitting on our carpet, because likely, we caused him to do so by not treating him as we ought to have treated him.

You done moralising? Dodgy

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17-11-2016, 05:58 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  The dog shits on the carpet out of necessity because he wasn't able to go outside, yet when we come home the dog feels guilt and hides (is being defensive) because they know they did something 'wrong'. How much more loved the dog would feel if instead of reprimanding it for shitting on the carpet, we petted it and said we forgive him? Because it was our fault he shit on the carpet in the first place.

For fuck's sake... Facepalm

Have you read this thread since the beginning? I never go full vitriol on my first shot. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt until they make it explicitly clear that they don't fucking care. We are long past this point.

He was given plenty of chances to absorb information, but he didn't. At some point you are lying yourself if you don't call an ignorant liar for what they are, and I'll take being an asshole over being a liar.


(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  He may have came here meaning well enough, but it only takes one person to set another person on the defensive. And five whole pages had passed with various things about Socialists religion that could well have set him on the defensive side of things.

Oh, it's been more than that. Like I said, we're more than 60 pages past kiddy glove territory.


(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  It would be easy enough to blame Christians for only using the bible to support their beliefs, but we have to understand, for many Christians the bible is all they really 'know'.

Which I have personally tried to explain to him more than a dozen times myself. Nothing is sticking. It's not for lack of trying.


(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  So forgive him for coming here and shitting on our carpet, because likely, we caused him to do so by not treating him as we ought to have treated him.

Uh, no. Fuck that. He's getting the exact amount of respect that his thread history warrants; none at all. We're not responsible for his purposeful ignorance and lying.

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17-11-2016, 06:07 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  
(17-11-2016 05:16 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  It's not on me. I didn't come to his internet hang out and shit on his carpet. If I had done so, and then I got defensive when said shit was not appreciated by the local residents? I'd be the asshole in that scenario.

He came here to tell us how we're all wrong. He's not looking for a conversation. He's not even once given a direct reply. He is monologuing.


So I'm still here, cleaning up his mess, because it's my internet hang out and I appreciate a clean carpet Drinking Beverage

The dog shits on the carpet out of necessity because he wasn't able to go outside, yet when we come home the dog feels guilt and hides (is being defensive) because they know they did something 'wrong'. How much more loved the dog would feel if instead of reprimanding it for shitting on the carpet, we petted it and said we forgive him? Because it was our fault he shit on the carpet in the first place.

He may have came here meaning well enough, but it only takes one person to set another person on the defensive. And five whole pages had passed with various things about Socialists religion that could well have set him on the defensive side of things.

It would be easy enough to blame Christians for only using the bible to support their beliefs, but we have to understand, for many Christians the bible is all they really 'know'.

So forgive him for coming here and shitting on our carpet, because likely, we caused him to do so by not treating him as we ought to have treated him.

This dog ain't ours, I don't give a fuck how the dog feels, he can have his nose rubbed in his own shit and then shown the door.

Socialist view probably has mental problems, I tried a few pages back to tell him clearly that he needs to get help (CHAS also), he said he wasn't crazy and went right on posting his next nutter link.

That's basically all I can do from a compassionate side, but if a person doesn't want help, there's nothing you can do. He simply needs to get off this forum and get help.

But he won't listen, maybe you can PM him and convince him, give it a shot, good luck, he hasn't shown any sign of sanity or rationality in over 100 pages.

So go forth and save him from himself. Hobo

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17-11-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(16-11-2016 09:26 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Not really the adventure minded of aries won't fit well with taurus. They won't be the first to do anything. These are characteristics that out define any other tempermant the person may or may not have. Read the charateristics and see if that person doesn't act like that. And when people start going by astrology it will be different mabe. [/qoute]

Yes, really. Astrology is utter bullshit. There is no basis at all for any of its claims and studies show that astrologers can't match personality profiles to star signs at any rate greater than chance.

Quote:Women were saw as second class what jew said that, ya they saw that as benefit to work out political and marital issues they may have but they were seen as equal just children had to be taken care of. Only thing they could do wss divorce untill the 14th century. Mary went into the synagoge

No Jew had to say explicitly "women are second class". Some of us have reading comprehension and are able to pick up things like that from a list of laws that make women subordinate to men. Saying that women were cared for just like children shows just how warped your perspective is. Women don't need to be cared for, they need to be treated as equal partners.

[quote]And I was thinking very hard about the baby issue; if the child grew up he would like to search about his history and so lead after while leave them all astray.

Again, your morality is skewed so badly you don't see how disgustingly immoral you are.

(16-11-2016 09:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Its healthier to live in a man woman mariage society like cutting off the forskin off the child, and nobody else was doing that.

You have studies that show that forcing gays to live celibate lives or to marry somebody they are not physically attracted to makes for a healthier society? I can hardly wait for you to demonstrate that this isn't just another unsubstantiated, bigoted claim.

Quote:But you know they could have figured that out by themselves I don't think people back then were as barbaric as you think just less compassionate for the fellow man which the bible tried to teach them.

What do you think barbaric means? By the way, compassion is NOT a lesson that the bible emphasizes.

Quote:What is Sin is you doing something that causes something else to fail that's what sin is the ten commandments deal with you harming somebody else.

Please explain how worshipping another god, working on the sabbath, or making pictures of animals harms another. Please explain why women are lumped in with cattle. Please explain why the 10 are revered while the other 603 are forgotten. Please do not say they were the most important because that's not how it reads. In fact, when the bible does specify that there are 10 commandments the list is very different and includes things like not boiling a goat in its mother's milk. That would hardly be at the top of my list of commandments for a just, moral society.

The bible has some good directives but none that are unique or original. It also has a lot of pointless and even immoral directives. The trick is to not get your morals from ignorant, semi-nomadic goat herders.

Quote:but I think people back then were pretty advance if you would look at the library of alexandria

The library of Alexandria has nothing to do with the barbaric tribespeople that wrote most of the bible and we aren't talking about other cultures. You can't use Alexandria to try to excuse Israel and Judah.

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17-11-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(16-11-2016 09:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Its healthier to live in a man woman mariage...

Been there, done that. Also spent time in a same-sex relationship. However, I'm currently the happiest I've ever been now, with no relationship at all. I get a large bed all to Myself, evenings and weekends are for projects that I want to do, I don't have to rush back home if I'm out and about, and household expenses have dropped to the point where I'm able to actually build up some retirement savings.

It's glorious. Should have done this years ago.
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17-11-2016, 11:38 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(17-11-2016 05:56 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  So forgive him for coming here and shitting on our carpet, because likely, we caused him to do so by not treating him as we ought to have treated him.

You done moralising? Dodgy

NEVER!!!!

(17-11-2016 06:07 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  The dog shits on the carpet out of necessity because he wasn't able to go outside, yet when we come home the dog feels guilt and hides (is being defensive) because they know they did something 'wrong'. How much more loved the dog would feel if instead of reprimanding it for shitting on the carpet, we petted it and said we forgive him? Because it was our fault he shit on the carpet in the first place.

He may have came here meaning well enough, but it only takes one person to set another person on the defensive. And five whole pages had passed with various things about Socialists religion that could well have set him on the defensive side of things.

It would be easy enough to blame Christians for only using the bible to support their beliefs, but we have to understand, for many Christians the bible is all they really 'know'.

So forgive him for coming here and shitting on our carpet, because likely, we caused him to do so by not treating him as we ought to have treated him.

This dog ain't ours, I don't give a fuck how the dog feels, he can have his nose rubbed in his own shit and then shown the door.

Socialist view probably has mental problems, I tried a few pages back to tell him clearly that he needs to get help (CHAS also), he said he wasn't crazy and went right on posting his next nutter link.

That's basically all I can do from a compassionate side, but if a person doesn't want help, there's nothing you can do. He simply needs to get off this forum and get help.

But he won't listen, maybe you can PM him and convince him, give it a shot, good luck, he hasn't shown any sign of sanity or rationality in over 100 pages.

So go forth and save him from himself. Hobo

I was guessing that it was some young kid due to the lack of coherency in their posts. However having said that... he could also be a troll. In which case if he were trolling, he'd be trolling all you guys super hard. I mean I don't like saying that someone is just trolling, but my lengthy time spent in the halls of the internet have taught me a thing or two.

and then he also says things like this

(19-10-2016 02:22 PM)socialistview Wrote:  read this now can you get over that becuase god only did that once and it was morally correct to do face it.
facultyblog.eternitybiblecollege.com/.../did-god-command-joshua-to-slaughter-babies/


(12-11-2016 12:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  So dark wanderer you believe in evolution. So gullible to say that those ape bones look like human bones.

I mean...





Also I don't feel an urgent need to save others from themselves, at least as far as religious beliefs go, that would be the equivalent of being one of those door to door fellows.

Also if he is on the defensive right now it'd be best to wait until he settles down a bit.

(17-11-2016 05:58 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  The dog shits on the carpet out of necessity because he wasn't able to go outside, yet when we come home the dog feels guilt and hides (is being defensive) because they know they did something 'wrong'. How much more loved the dog would feel if instead of reprimanding it for shitting on the carpet, we petted it and said we forgive him? Because it was our fault he shit on the carpet in the first place.

For fuck's sake... Facepalm

Have you read this thread since the beginning? I never go full vitriol on my first shot. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt until they make it explicitly clear that they don't fucking care. We are long past this point.

He was given plenty of chances to absorb information, but he didn't. At some point you are lying yourself if you don't call an ignorant liar for what they are, and I'll take being an asshole over being a liar.


(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  He may have came here meaning well enough, but it only takes one person to set another person on the defensive. And five whole pages had passed with various things about Socialists religion that could well have set him on the defensive side of things.

Oh, it's been more than that. Like I said, we're more than 60 pages past kiddy glove territory.


(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  It would be easy enough to blame Christians for only using the bible to support their beliefs, but we have to understand, for many Christians the bible is all they really 'know'.

Which I have personally tried to explain to him more than a dozen times myself. Nothing is sticking. It's not for lack of trying.


(17-11-2016 05:28 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  So forgive him for coming here and shitting on our carpet, because likely, we caused him to do so by not treating him as we ought to have treated him.

Uh, no. Fuck that. He's getting the exact amount of respect that his thread history warrants; none at all. We're not responsible for his purposeful ignorance and lying.

Well a little bit of tough love never hurt anyone every now and again.
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17-11-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 02:22 PM)socialistview Wrote:  read this now can you get over that becuase god only did that once and it was morally correct to do face it.

You face it, socialistview: You are willingly worshipping an evil god and trying to convince other people to worship it as well. No amount of apologetics can excuse that.

If you cannot make clear and consistent moral judgments without resorting to making pathetic excuses for a genocidal bastard of a god, you have no business at all discussing morality. I'm willing to bet that if someone came and murdered your entire family and said that their god commanded them to do it, you wouldn't let them use that excuse.
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17-11-2016, 12:27 PM
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(17-11-2016 12:02 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Don't you WANT to learn, instead of going around making up convoluted excuses for your mistaken ideas?

You have to understand where Mark is coming from. He's a nice enough fella but he thinks he's Metatron driving around with the comely black lass Shekinah on his lap in a bright red '77 Trans Am Chariot of the Gods. Cut him some slack.

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17-11-2016, 01:05 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
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(17-11-2016 12:15 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Sorry my phone swipes I ment to say "the". Adultery should be a crime it could be failer to be faithful to the contract. And back then they had to know what baby was there's to keep the linage going and materials letalone trying to not be like the other nation let alone being dishonest. You athiest try to be critical about the bibles use of capital punishment and you shouldnt becuase god wasn't. I claim otherwise thr founding fathrrs believed in church with state and that the bible showed these rules to be evident. Jesus healed the sick on sabbath and I know christians today are compla cent becuase secularism tells them to be selfish but the whole bible is about fending for the weak. God took his divine intervention away when the world rebelled and only gave it to the jews becuase abraham listened. You would be the first to be on the battle field and last to leave right aries. You sayvthe first thing thatvpops to your head.vyou hate whenvthings are slow and much more.
What do you think is a fair and appropriate punishment for persons who commit adultery ? I don't think you will answer the question because deep down you are too cowardly but thought I would give it a go, after all I could quite conceivably be the first in line for your punishment and would like to prepare myself for what lies ahead, is it stoning,crucifixion,beheading,branding with hot irons,castration,prison tell me .... or are you too pussy chicken to say ?
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17-11-2016, 01:44 PM
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Also Socialist if you are being serious about the human ape bone thing.

here's the bones of a juvenile bonobo

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and lets go a little further than that as well

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Our embryos also happen to look very much like other embryos during their early stage

and to point out just how similar a baby chimps bones is to baby human bones

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Can you tell me which one is the human skull and which one is the chimp?
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