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18-11-2016, 01:12 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
I get hi then go to church how religous is that astreja. Infact I don't even go to church anymore just read the bible.
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18-11-2016, 01:15 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-11-2016 01:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I get hi then go to church how religous is that astreja. Infact I don't even go to church anymore just read the bible.

But you just said you go to church.
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18-11-2016, 01:28 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-11-2016 01:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I get hi then go to church how religous is that astreja. Infact I don't even go to church anymore just read the bible.

You are here, on an atheist forum, trying to defend the truth claims of a literal (but selective) interpretation of the Bible.

How is that anything but religious, dipshit? Facepalm

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18-11-2016, 01:30 AM
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(18-11-2016 01:11 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  I thought most of his disciples would have spoken Greek?

Some may have, but it was sort of the "language of the elites" (the educated), then, and one of the big points of the Jesus story is that he got common folk to follow him. The Romans had just moved into the area, so it hadn't yet become Latin. The common folk spoke Aramaic.

(18-11-2016 01:11 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  I also thought the diaspora didn't happen until after the Jewish Revolt? I mean before the Romans conquered Israel it had been part of the Seleucid and Ptolemaic kingdoms for a good three hundred years, and before that it was part of the Achaemenid empire for two hundred years. Even in the western Roman empire Greek was considered to be the language of intellectuals and many Roman Emperors knew both Greek and Latin. A few Roman emperors also knew Etruscan with Claudius being the last known person able to read and write it. Claudius also composed a dictionary of the language but I believe his work has been lost. I would also like to believe that he knew how valuable his work would be and I hope that he stashed a copy of it away somewhere where it could be safe from harm.

Wrong diaspora. I'm referring to the one that occurred when Assyria conquered the ten northern (sometimes called "lost") tribes of Israel, spread them out across the distant conquered territories of the Assyrian Empire, and replaced the people of Israel with other peoples they had shipped out from other faraway lands. It was one of the ways Assyrians dealt with people seeing a conquered territory as "this is OUR country!" Just move them to another one and move others onto the land, to start fresh. Over time those imported people became known as the Samaritans. It's why the Jews hated them so much, and why Jesus used one as an example of "see? even the worst people on earth can be moral", in the Parable of the Good Samaritan. The lesson there was not that he was good but that he was a Samaritan and was more of a neighbor to the Jew than the priests/elite of the Jews who passed by the wounded stranger.


(18-11-2016 01:11 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  You seem like a person who likes history Rocketsurgeon, because I don't think most people would know the things you do. How did you come to amass such knowledge?

I minored in history, but I focused mainly on military technology and how it changed both battlefields and cultures (most historians tend to focus on personalities, and I felt that was not the best/only approach). I just happen to remember almost everything I've ever learned. One of *those* sorts of brain. You should see me playing Trivial Pursuit at parties.

If only I could select what I retain and what I don't!

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18-11-2016, 01:31 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-11-2016 01:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I get hi then go to church how religous is that astreja. Infact I don't even go to church anymore just read the bible.

What's wrong with being high in church?




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18-11-2016, 01:40 AM
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(18-11-2016 01:30 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  You should see me playing Trivial Pursuit at parties.

If only I could select what I retain and what I don't!

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18-11-2016, 01:47 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-11-2016 01:30 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  
(18-11-2016 01:11 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  I thought most of his disciples would have spoken Greek?

Some may have, but it was sort of the "language of the elites" (the educated), then, and one of the big points of the Jesus story is that he got common folk to follow him. The Romans had just moved into the area, so it hadn't yet become Latin. The common folk spoke Aramaic.

(18-11-2016 01:11 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  I also thought the diaspora didn't happen until after the Jewish Revolt? I mean before the Romans conquered Israel it had been part of the Seleucid and Ptolemaic kingdoms for a good three hundred years, and before that it was part of the Achaemenid empire for two hundred years. Even in the western Roman empire Greek was considered to be the language of intellectuals and many Roman Emperors knew both Greek and Latin. A few Roman emperors also knew Etruscan with Claudius being the last known person able to read and write it. Claudius also composed a dictionary of the language but I believe his work has been lost. I would also like to believe that he knew how valuable his work would be and I hope that he stashed a copy of it away somewhere where it could be safe from harm.

Wrong diaspora. I'm referring to the one that occurred when Assyria conquered the ten northern (sometimes called "lost") tribes of Israel, spread them out across the distant conquered territories of the Assyrian Empire, and replaced the people of Israel with other peoples they had shipped out from other faraway lands. It was one of the ways Assyrians dealt with people seeing a conquered territory as "this is OUR country!" Just move them to another one and move others onto the land, to start fresh. Over time those imported people became known as the Samaritans. It's why the Jews hated them so much, and why Jesus used one as an example of "see? even the worst people on earth can be moral", in the Parable of the Good Samaritan. The lesson there was not that he was good but that he was a Samaritan and was more of a neighbor to the Jew than the priests/elite of the Jews who passed by the wounded stranger.


(18-11-2016 01:11 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  You seem like a person who likes history Rocketsurgeon, because I don't think most people would know the things you do. How did you come to amass such knowledge?

I minored in history, but I focused mainly on military technology and how it changed both battlefields and cultures (most historians tend to focus on personalities, and I felt that was not the best/only approach). I just happen to remember almost everything I've ever learned. One of *those* sorts of brain. You should see me playing Trivial Pursuit at parties.

If only I could select what I retain and what I don't!

You're very gifted to have a high retention of the things you've learned. I wish I could say the same thing. Also for the eastern part of the Empire Latin never really did become a thing, it was all Greek right up to the end of the Byzantine Empire. But I can see how Aramaic could have still been around back then. Certainly if no one spoke Aramaic Jesus wouldn't have spoken his last words in such.

I've never quite figured out how Christians don't believe that Jesus wasn't renouncing god on the cross.
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18-11-2016, 03:06 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
The explanation I got when I was a Southern Baptist was that, in the "why have you forsaken me" moment, God cut him off from the Godhood, and placed all the weight of everyone's sins on Jesus... for that moment, he was 100% human, and asked "himself" why he had been forsaken.

Of course, the more obvious explanation was that he wasn't God, and never thought he was.

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18-11-2016, 05:01 AM
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(17-11-2016 02:54 PM)adey67 Wrote:  
(17-11-2016 02:06 PM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  You'd be right. Was it the description in the link address that gave it away?

No. I'm an RN its not difficult, it was easy to support the volume of non human bone

Edit, swap support for spot. Also volume of bone instead of volume of non human bone, also pronounced maxilla bone. Should have been more precise but was a bit bombed on the sleeping tablets my Dr gave me, note to self don't try to post when spaced out. Big Grin
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18-11-2016, 06:35 AM
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(18-11-2016 01:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I get hi then go to church how religous is that astreja. Infact I don't even go to church anymore just read the bible.

That explains a lot.
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