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18-10-2016, 03:19 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 02:58 PM)socialistview Wrote:  jesus is the word ...

Come on. Everyone knows that the Bird is the word.

Don't Live each day like it's your last. Live each day like you have 541 days after that one where every choice you make will have lasting implications to you and the world around you. ~ Tim Minchin
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18-10-2016, 03:28 PM
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well god himself was crucified to his own laws but that was for believers who took a vow to the faith you believe espionage should be punishable by death. have you heard of the book of thomas and the dead sea scrolls they were all put together but it says in the bible dont care about words atleast you get the gist of it.
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18-10-2016, 03:36 PM
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i don't see the moon and a blue dog can be god if you want but why it's all brown and runny is the funniest thing an ant could chew can you dig it? and jesus loves me yes i know but why he have to do me so.
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18-10-2016, 03:40 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  well god himself was crucified to his own laws but that was for believers who took a vow to the faith

god had himself killed as a sacrifice to himself to allow himself to forgive the creatures he made because they didn't live up to his demands even though he defined their characteristics... there is nothing sensible or moral about that in the slightest.

Quote: you believe espionage should be punishable by death.

Who said that? Why do you think you know that anybody believes that?

Quote: have you heard of the book of thomas and the dead sea scrolls they were all put together but it says in the bible dont care about words atleast you get the gist of it.

Huh? Not really sure what point you are trying to make. There were many other gospels... Thomas, Judas, and Mary to name a few just like there where multiple books of revelation and other acts of the apostles. They didn't fit into the evolving orthodoxy so they were discarded. If things had gone a little differently the ones you accept might easily have been discarded. The Dead Sea scrolls are largely parts of the old testament... John Allegro is an author to check out if you want to learn a bit about them.

Funny how the bible says not to care about words but all it offer to support that is words. It's like the old joke about when a christian asks "don't you read the bible?" the right response is "don't you read anything else?". The bible isn't authoritative just because it says it is. Claims have to be supported with evidence and it has precious little behind it.

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18-10-2016, 03:42 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  well god himself was crucified to his own laws but that was for believers who took a vow to the faith you believe espionage should be punishable by death. have you heard of the book of thomas and the dead sea scrolls they were all put together but it says in the bible dont care about words atleast you get the gist of it.

If you don't mind answering...
how old are you?
is English a second language for you?

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18-10-2016, 03:47 PM
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How the f*ck can a god be crucified? If he can be crucified, then hes not a god. Hobo

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18-10-2016, 03:49 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 03:47 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  How the f*ck can a god be crucified? If he can be crucified, then hes not a god. Hobo




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18-10-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
There was a red-back on the toilet seat
When I was there last night,
I didn't see him in the dark,
But boy! I felt his bite!
I jumped high up into the air,
And when I hit the ground,
That crafty red-back spider
Wasn't nowhere to be found.


I rushed in to the missus,
Told her just where I'd been bit,
She grabbed the cut throat razor blade,
And I nearly took a fit.
I said, "Just forget what's on your mind,
And call a doctor please,
'Cause I've got a feeling that your cure
Is worse than the disease."

There was a red-back on the toilet seat
When I was there last night,
I didn't see him in the dark,
But boy! I felt his bite!
And now I'm here in hospital,
A sad and sorry plight,
And I curse that red-back spider
On the toilet seat last night.

I can't lay down, I can't sit up,
And I don't know what to do,
And all the nurses think it's funny,
But that's not my point of view.
I tell you it's embarrassing,
And that's to say the least
That I'm to sick to eat a bite,
While that spider had a feast!

And when I get back home again,
I tell you what I'll do,
I'll make that red-back suffer
For the pain I'm going through.
I've had so many needles
That I'm looking like a sieve,
And I promise you that spider
Hasn't very long to live!

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18-10-2016, 04:21 PM (This post was last modified: 19-10-2016 12:09 PM by Commonsensei.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Well god himself was crucified to his own laws, but that was for believers who took a vow to the faith. You believe espionage should be punishable by death. Have you heard of the book of Thomas and the dead sea scrolls? They were all put together. But it says in the bible don't care about words at least you get the gist of it.

Punctuation please. The wall of text is hard enough to read already.

God sacrificed himself. To himself. Because of laws he put it place?

Is your god incapable of forgiveness?
Dose blood always need to be spilled for him to do so?

So since you like bible quotes let's use bible quotes.

Quote:Matthew 5:17: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Jesus)

Quote:Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations. Deuteronomy 7:9

Quote:Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway. Deuteronomy 11:1

Quote:Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant. 1 Chronicles 16:15

Quote:Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth. Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever. Psalm 119:151-2
Quote:
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
Psalm 119:160
Why? Because if you don't he'll curse you.

Quote:Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 11:26-28

That means every nutty, every contradictory commandment that was ever thought up in the old testament. Still applies.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...mmandments

Not just you can fudge a little.

Maybe you don't agree with that? And in that case I would be inclined to agree with you. Or maybe you think you know better. In that case you would be calling Jesus a lair. And if Jesus could lie about that. What would make you think he couldn't lie about other things?

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18-10-2016, 06:09 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(18-10-2016 01:59 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i cant find that scripture but proveBS READ 14:6 and see if thats not how things end up but this is from a wise man who recieved his wisdomfrom god. the greatest commandmentis love thy neighboras thy self god has always been three persons in one so when he speaks he says we, also the law was ment for multiple people during the time of adam there was no law so tell me what is this prior knowledge that god has not seen. and also the jews had connection with the highest god other books or religions are real just the jews were entrusted with his exact words while every other religion is passed down storiesand ya you can play invoke angel and ask for something thats what they did back then.

I'm not certain again who this is addressed to but it seems to be a response to what I had asked. If I'm mistaken the you can correct me.

You seem to always appeal to some authority when discussing how you know something. It came from this book or that wise man. When you accept something as knowledge you also implicitly assume all the premises that are hidden in what you accept. You've accepted Christianity in this way and that is why you are having difficulty here.

Let me give you an example. Suppose I said that my starting point to my philosophy was the principle that all dogs go to heaven. This would be equivalent to your starting point that we are to care fore one another. Both are propositions, but both assume prior knowledge. What is a dog? What is heaven? What does it mean to go there? You see what I mean? One would have to know what each of these words means before one could understand my starting point.

I'll give you another hint. Start with the first sentence in Genesis. What does it say. In the beginning............

Do not lose your knowledge that man's proper estate is an upright posture, an intransigent mind and a step that travels unlimited roads. - Ayn Rand.

Don't sacrifice for me, live for yourself! - Me

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