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19-10-2016, 07:47 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 07:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(19-10-2016 07:24 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  I get the feeling that he has only read the New Testament -- because what you quote is only one of many places in the Old Testament where God commands genocide (or commits it himself). If he had ever read the Old Testament, he wouldn't have had to ask the question.

your taking it out of context god was letting the isrealites take vengeance on there enemies.

No, God was commanding the Israelites to commit genocide. This included killing innocent animals and babies who never did anything to the Israelites, and therefore were not deserving of "vengeance". Any excuse you might make for this is totally inadequate. God was being a dick. Good thing it's all fiction.
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19-10-2016, 07:53 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 07:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(19-10-2016 07:24 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  I get the feeling that he has only read the New Testament -- because what you quote is only one of many places in the Old Testament where God commands genocide (or commits it himself). If he had ever read the Old Testament, he wouldn't have had to ask the question.

your taking it out of context god was letting the isrealites take vengeance on there enemies.

Just to be clear:

Are you stating that murder of men, women, elderly and children was acceptable?

Are you stating that abduction and rape of young female virgins was acceptable?


YES or NO?

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19-10-2016, 07:57 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 07:20 AM)socialistview Wrote:  you have atheory then you do the experiment you believe your good at something then you do it. supernatural things happened before now were in a waiting period for it to happen again .

Proof?

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19-10-2016, 08:08 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
*everybody's wrong*
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19-10-2016, 09:15 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
if you read from the beginning it says enemies that probably raped and pillaged them.
https://gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-violence.html
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19-10-2016, 09:16 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
young people speaking their mind
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19-10-2016, 09:17 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 09:15 AM)socialistview Wrote:  if you read from the beginning it says enemies that probably raped and pillaged them.
https://gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-violence.html‎

The babies and women and animals didn't rape and pillage anyone. What part of that can't you understand?
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19-10-2016, 09:19 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 07:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  your taking it out of context god was letting the isrealites take vengeance on there enemies.
Others have already pointed out that you don't understand this correctly. But I'm wondering, given that you thought this was correct, how do you reconcile:

OT: Vengeance = ok with gawd so you can still go to heaven
NT: Vengeance = failure to turn the other cheek, so off to hell with you (or at least additional purgatory time, depending on your belief)

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19-10-2016, 09:23 AM (This post was last modified: 19-10-2016 10:05 AM by Grasshopper.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 09:15 AM)socialistview Wrote:  if you read from the beginning it says enemies that probably raped and pillaged them.
https://gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-violence.html

Read the book of Joshua. The Israelites rape and pillage and plunder numerous cities and groups of people at God's command. Note that the Israelites, previous to this, have been wandering in the desert for 40 years, and before that, they spent many generations in Egypt. They have never even met the people that they're attacking. These people have done nothing to them. They are simply murdering the people so they can take their land.

Instead of taking the word of some lying apologetic website, you should try reading the actual Bible itself. Read what it really says. If you aren't disgusted by it, there's something wrong with you.
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19-10-2016, 09:27 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(19-10-2016 09:15 AM)socialistview Wrote:  if you read from the beginning it says enemies that probably raped and pillaged them.
https://gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-violence.html

No dodges. No wiggling.

Are you stating that murder of men, women, elderly and children was acceptable?

Are you stating that abduction and rape of young female virgins was acceptable?


YES or NO?

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