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14-10-2016, 12:37 PM (This post was last modified: 14-10-2016 12:52 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

* everybody is wrong

Yeah we know.
You're very special. Facepalm
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We get about one a week.
"I know better than everyone".

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There are real actual scholars who know a great deal about how and why the texts that were eventually, non-unanimously, voted into the canon of the Bible were written.
The cultural rules that were sanctioned (later) as religious rules in these (Bible) texts were already in place, in the culture(s) of the ancient Near East.
Not ONE of them, originated in a Bible text.

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14-10-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

The bible has a lot of things in it to be wrong and right about, care to be more specific?

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14-10-2016, 12:47 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible.

Oh?

(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules.

Yes, the bible does have many rules.

The slavery rules are interesting:
SAB: Slavery and the Bible

And the rules on rape:
SAB: Rape and the Bible

So you think that a book that condones slavery and rape, and other atrocities, is a good basis for morality?

(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

Because if you don't love jeebus, god will send you to hell where you suffer ultimate pain for eternity.

Yeah, that pretty much defines love and compassion in my dictionary... Evil_monster

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14-10-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
Maybe you should actually read those rules and see just how virtuous, compassionate, and giving they are. Some of them are, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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14-10-2016, 01:08 PM
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Everybody's wrong. Tongue


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14-10-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.
So there are at least three views of the bible - atheists, christians, and yours - why does god make his book/message so confusing? Consider

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14-10-2016, 01:17 PM
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They always skip question zero: How do you prove your god or gods exist?
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14-10-2016, 01:24 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

Great! Which god and how do you know this?

I’m partial to Aztec gods such as QUETZALCOATL and Caribbean gods like BONDYE but here, take your pick.
http://www.godchecker.com

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14-10-2016, 01:24 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
I don't think it's really fair or correct to compare the Bible to Buddhism. The Bible is a spiritual text that is meant to be read as a history book and as fact. Yes, many stories can be seen as allegory or condensed/symbolically simplified like Genesis. I mean yeah, the birth of our universe is interesting but let's just say it took 7 days and the last one was for resting and get to the whole fruit eating incident right away.

Also Buddhists holy books including the Tipitaka are teachings written by Buddha's students who became teachers who taught students, etc. and it's not meant to be a "word of God". The Bible was written by men but we are to believe it was inspired by God or somehow influenced by the supreme ruler of the universe which is not something Buddhists believe about their own holy texts. Buddha himself is not a God and not even revered or worshiped as a God, he was a human man who found enlightenment and attained nirvana through meditation and a release of desire among other things.

The biggest difference is the Bible directly states that "salvation" is needed to find happiness in the after life, this can only be done by accepting a human blood sacrifice of a god man, a literal washing of your soul in blood. This is something a Buddhist would reject outright as an execution of an innocent soul would teach nothing and would do nothing to free someone else's soul or enlighten them,it would only burden them with guilt.

No such rules or regulations exist in Buddhism which offers it's teachings as a guide to find true happiness in life, not in death. This is a very important difference, all the teachings are for your LIFE, not your DEATH. They're so cool about it in fact, you even get a second chance by reincarnating, Christianity only offers eternal suffering in Hell if you don't accept the terms of the religion.

As you can see one is clearly more dedicated to morality and focuses on fundamentals of life while the other is fixated on death and condones teachings that would bring pain and suffering to billions of people.

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14-10-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism

What do you think atheists think about the bible?

Quote: but its fundamentals start with having rules.

The fundamentals of the bible as a book start with having rules? I'm guessing that you mean that it was an early attempt to set up societal rules and, if so, that's part of it.

Quote:I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

Why do you think a god exists and on what do you base your conclusion about what it wants? The bible certainly does not consistently support that.

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