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20-10-2016, 03:33 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(20-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ive read the whole bible just needed to refresh. and it says fighting men for jerico.

Then you need to work on your reading skills. You don't seem to remember or understand any of what you've read.
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20-10-2016, 03:38 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(20-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ive read the whole bible just needed to refresh. and it says fighting men for jerico.

When you have to differentiate between the atrocities (note the plural) that your god is responsible for, then you have already lost the argument.

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20-10-2016, 03:39 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(20-10-2016 03:20 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i think becuase of peoples ignorance of the bible is why they dont believe in the bible.

Almost everyone here has read every word in the Bible, at least once. For several of us, we have read multiple translations in their entirety. A few of us (myself included) have taken college-level courses in Biblical history and/or theology. A couple of us have advanced degrees in that field.

We understand your Bible quite well.

That is why we are atheists.

The attempted excuse that we are "ignorant" of the Bible betrays your prejudices.

"Theology made no provision for evolution. The biblical authors had missed the most important revelation of all! Could it be that they were not really privy to the thoughts of God?" - E. O. Wilson
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20-10-2016, 03:39 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(20-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ive read the whole bible just needed to refresh. and it says fighting men for jerico.

Okay kid, listen up.

I have been reading your ignorant posts regarding the bible. You neither know it, nor understand it.

In order to qualify for my ministership, I had to study it daily. I did this over the course of years. This was due to my having another career.

I passed all my tests and was ordained. However, I was an atheist at the time and became a minister for a laugh.

My reason was because I saw the evil within this supposed "good book". The book is full of xenophobia.

Hang on, that's a big word for you.

xenophobia
NOUN

[mass noun] Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
‘racism and xenophobia are steadily growing in Europe’


Jesus spoke openly and fully regarded xenophobia as a good thing.

Matthew 10:14

And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Jesus Christ.

You have little knowledge and you are writing on a website where every member is aware of your ignorance.

Do you have so little to do with your time on earth?

You are failing miserably and are seen as an ignorant fool.

Kindly bother someone else.

And members, why are you bothering to respond to this blithering idiot?

This is my final serious post on this ridiculous thread.

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20-10-2016, 03:45 PM
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i keep telling you the people were evil. god says for sodom thats the representation of what evil people will get i dont think you would show favoritism. and show me where it says i will harden and dont you think god has control of everything.
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20-10-2016, 03:48 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(20-10-2016 03:45 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i keep telling you the people were evil. god says for sodom thats the representation of what evil people will get i dont think you would show favoritism. and show me where it says i will harden and dont you think god has control of everything.

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20-10-2016, 03:49 PM
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And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go. Exodus 4:21

And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt. Exodus 7:3

And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said. Exodus 7:13

And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses. Exodus 9:12

And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him. Exodus 10:1

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go. Exodus 10:20

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let them go. Exodus 10:27

And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go out of his land. Exodus 11:10

And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, that he shall follow after them; and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD. Exodus 14:4

And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued after the children of Israel. Exodus 14:8

I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they shall follow them: and I will get me honour. Exodus 14:18
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20-10-2016, 03:50 PM
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20-10-2016, 04:07 PM
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(20-10-2016 12:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  the people were evil like hitler

Hitler was Catholic.

(20-10-2016 12:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  for example, god said not to rape and pillage and in other passages god said keep the women and children alive.

I know you wont so I don't know why I've even bothering anymore.

Show me a passage that say's don't rape.
Show me a passage that say's don't pillage.


The passages you're referring to were it say's to keep the women and (female) children alive. Was because they were spoils of war. The soldiers were to use them however they saw fit. Consider Now what could soldiers want to do with young women? Slaves? Sex? Convert them? If they refused to convert what would happen? Oh boy I get to live with the person that killed my whole famliy. What a sweet deal.

You'll be able to find passages that say what happens should a person get caught raping. The man gets to marry the rape victim. Or the victim get's murdered. But no commandment from up high that say don't rape. I'll await you to show me the passge the informs me I'm wrong. But I wont hold my breath.

(20-10-2016 12:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  your just trying to descredit god becuase you want to be hypocritical and want to see a god that makes everything a happy story without any actual antagonist involved.

You're confused. I can not desecrate that this is not there. However I can (attempt to) education you on you're misconceptions.

Hypocritical: the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

Us saying that your conception of go

(20-10-2016 12:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  do you know how things work?

That's a broad question.

I can say. Yes; I know how things work. Depends on what those things are.

(20-10-2016 12:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  god said to job mabe theres a way things have to go in order to have the best outcome with intelligent creatures who have free will or in his likeness. god says in the new testament vengence is his and it says in romans 2 that you can understand a moral code without the bible. pharoah was already going to do that so god could show that he is the god of all gods by letting the egyptians use there magical practices and rituals for there gods to no avail, and it also says god can do what ever he wants but he doesnt and makes sure that the good live long lives, read job starting at chapter 32 to the end it explains the reason for suffering and turmoil.
and jesus took women very highly
https://bible.org/article/christianity-b...ened-women

Geez louise. It's like reading an elementary school note book.

I hate going threw so much work showing the contrary only to have it fall on deaf ears.

Quote:"You shall speak all that I command you, and your brother Aaron shall speak to Pharaoh that he let the sons of Israel go out of his land. 3"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt. 4"When Pharaoh does not listen to you, then I will lay My hand on Egypt and bring out My hosts, My people the sons of Israel, from the land of Egypt by great judgments.…Exodus 7:2 - 4

In the story God made it so even if the Pharaoh said "Yeah ok you guys can leave." God used his magic to make it impossible to do so. Why? Because he wanted to show off. Show off how monstrous he could be. Locust, Blood rivers, murdering children.

Let's see Jesus thoughts on Women.

Quote:Mathew 25:1-13 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.


Revelations 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. (Jesus)

These are only two passages. I have 50 more. Let's see if your capable of even responding to these. Before I waste my time writing the others.

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20-10-2016, 04:17 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(20-10-2016 03:45 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i keep telling you the people were evil. god says for sodom thats the representation of what evil people will get i dont think you would show favoritism. and show me where it says i will harden and dont you think god has control of everything.

And how exactly do you know that the people were evil? Oh, because it's on the Bible. Facepalm

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