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20-10-2016, 04:24 PM
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Gods name is blasphemed among the gentiles because of the jews god says. Its been man and not god who did all the violence in the bible and god giving justice for that. in the flood god was going to wipe out everything and creat everything over again enoch pleaded no so the fault is on Enoch. Paul talks about pharaohs hope this helps Romans 9 - Paul's Anguish Over Israel - I ...
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20-10-2016, 04:24 PM
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(20-10-2016 04:17 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(20-10-2016 03:45 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i keep telling you the people were evil. god says for sodom thats the representation of what evil people will get i dont think you would show favoritism. and show me where it says i will harden and dont you think god has control of everything.

And how exactly do you know that the people were evil? Oh, because it's on the Bible. Facepalm

The Bible is the claim - it is not the evidence.

At the risk of being accused of wordplay, I claim that there is no evidence that he has actually read the Bible.
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20-10-2016, 04:34 PM
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(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  in the flood god was going to wipe out everything and creat everything over again enoch pleaded no so the fault is on Enoch.

?????

What Bible are you reading? Enoch was a distant ancestor of Noah, and he was long gone before the flood. In the flood narrative in Genesis, God makes his decision without consulting Enoch or anyone else. Enoch isn't even mentioned.
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20-10-2016, 04:46 PM
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20-10-2016, 05:28 PM (This post was last modified: 20-10-2016 05:53 PM by true scotsman.)
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(20-10-2016 03:20 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i think becuase of peoples ignorance of the bible is why they dont believe in the bible.

In my case Socialist, I do understand the bible and that is why I reject it. I think your belief in the Bible is based on a most superficial understanding. You've already shown that you do not understand what the Bible teaches in terms of the fundamental principles that it assumes. So this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Why do you attempt to take the speck from our eyes while ignoring the beam in your own?

if my own understanding were as flimsy as yours, I'd still be a believer.

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20-10-2016, 05:40 PM
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(20-10-2016 03:15 PM)socialistview Wrote:  pharoah harden hisown heart and god let it happen.

Part of reading a book is comprehending what it actually says and not what you want it to say. try it sometime.

Quote:the flood he was going to wipe everybody everything. sodom he sent to see if there were good people there and it doesnt say babies.

He sent to see? He didn't know? Strike omniscient off the list...

Obviously if it didn't say babies then there were nonw around for the flood or living in Sodom or Gomorrah. Facepalm

Quote:and job was perfect so the devil wanted to test him but couldn't kill him though god rewarded him greatly after that.

By letting satan kill his entire family and torment him. Job was used as a toy for god's amusement. The story is disgusting.

(20-10-2016 03:20 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i think becuase of peoples ignorance of the bible is why they dont believe in the bible.

I think it is why they DO believe in it. When people start reading what is actually there instead of what they are told it "really" means they often see the horrors. Atheists generally promote the idea of reading the bible since it is one of the fastest paths to seeing through the bullshit.

(20-10-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ive read the whole bible just needed to refresh. and it says fighting men for jerico.

What says fighting men for Jericho? Are you seriously trying to say they only killed the fighting men? To steal a phrase, lying for Jesus is still lying.

Joshua 9
(21) And they utterly destroyed all that [was] in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
(27) So the LORD was with Joshua; and his fame was [noised] throughout all the country.

Your god arranged for Joshua to take the city and rewarded him for his barbaric acts. No hint of blame is mentioned. You are excusing genocide.

(20-10-2016 03:45 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i keep telling you the people were evil. god says for sodom thats the representation of what evil people will get i dont think you would show favoritism. and show me where it says i will harden and dont you think god has control of everything.

Repeating an inane claim doesn't make it better. How do you know the people were evil? Because the book says so? Even if any of it remotely resembles something that actually happened you know that history is generally written by the victors. There is simply no reason to believe this book is accurate in the first place.

Besides, the idea that EVERY inhabitant of a city, including the children, is "evil" to the point where they deserve to be slaughtered says that you are stuck in bronze-age thinking. Some of us have progressed.

(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Gods name is blasphemed among the gentiles because of the jews god says. Its been man and not god who did all the violence in the bible

Man did not flood the earth. Man did not wipe out Sodom & Gomorrah. Man did not cause the earth to swallow up people. Claiming that your god is not violent is ludicrous.

Quote:and god giving justice for that.

You confuse vengeance and vindictiveness with justice. Your sense of right and wrong is horribly warped by your belief in this horrific fairy tale.

Quote: in the flood god was going to wipe out everything and creat everything over again enoch pleaded no so the fault is on Enoch.

What bible are you reading? Please cite where this occurred.

Even if that were the case it was still your god's decision and his actions. "Enoch told me to do it" is a pretty flimsy excuse for a god, don't you think?

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20-10-2016, 05:53 PM
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20-10-2016, 06:01 PM
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(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Gods name is blasphemed among the gentiles because of the jews god says.

You anti-Semitic fuck nugget.

(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Its been man and not god who did all the violence in the bible and god giving justice for that.

Man made the Flood?
Man killed the first born of Egypt?
Man brought the plagues of Egypt?

(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  in the flood god was going to wipe out everything and creat everything over again enoch pleaded no so the fault is on Enoch.

So Enoch was at fault for trying to help?

You ignorant, semi-literate moron. Step away from the keyboard and turn off the computer. You are polluting the forums with this stupidity.

(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But since you know everything tell me what do i have wrong.

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My responses are short.

And incomprehensibly stupid.
And illogical, unethical, anti-Semetic, nonsensical, immoral.

You and your god deserve each other.

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20-10-2016, 06:50 PM
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20-10-2016, 07:13 PM
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(20-10-2016 04:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Gods name is blasphemed among the gentiles because of the jews god says. Its been man and not god who did all the violence in the bible and god giving justice for that. in the flood god was going to wipe out everything and creat everything over again enoch pleaded no so the fault is on Enoch. Paul talks about pharaohs hope this helps Romans 9 - Paul's Anguish Over Israel - I ...
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