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22-10-2016, 11:44 PM
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(22-10-2016 10:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  yes i guess god harden it as he is indirectly involved in everybodies actions as god.

So much for that "free will" shit.

Quote:the bible says if you die your reward is in heaven...

The Bible also mentions a Talking Snake™ in Genesis 3. Kindly contact your god and arrange to have one shipped to My house by prepaid express delivery.

Quote:very convienent to believe that you have a promise if you believe, the apostles did that and we will have to too against the antichrist.

Although I am personally of the opinion that the #1 candidate for "Antichrist" was Paul of Tarsus and you have nothing whatsoever to fear from Apocalypses and Beasts and scary numbers, I really don't think your cause is worth dying for. I believe that eternal life is pure mythology, and that you have no chance whatsoever of waking up in heaven.
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22-10-2016, 11:45 PM
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(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but ..... christians are wrong .....

The True Christians are not wrong.
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22-10-2016, 11:46 PM
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^^^ Not a True Christian™.
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23-10-2016, 12:31 AM
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(22-10-2016 11:46 PM)Astreja Wrote:  ^^^ Not a True Christian™.

You mean that I can't take every word that drips from Borgy's... mouth... as true? What a surprise...

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23-10-2016, 08:05 AM (This post was last modified: 23-10-2016 08:21 AM by unfogged.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(22-10-2016 10:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  good god icant even begin to explain your blantent use of the text to fill your mind witgods bad. moses said that not god, the people so god punished them like david killing the wifes husband. is that all you got yes i guess god harden it as he is indirectly involved in everybodies actions as god.

I'm sorry that the plain text of your holy book doesn't say what you want it to and that you need apologetics to wash over the nasty parts and make it all sound good. The book has some decent stuff, some truly disgusting parts, and a lot of contradictions -- exactly what you'd expect given the known history of when it was written, edited, and compiled.

The real question is what evidence do you have that this is not just a storybook? The Iliad and the Odyssey tell stories about the Greek gods and are much better written and self-consistent. Why should I believe your book and not those?

We have a thread here about creation stories that, again, are generally more interesting and better written than the book of genesis. Why should I believe it and not one of them?

Humans have a LONG history of making up stories to explain the world they see. They also have a long history of re-writing stories to spin them the way they would prefer they were. The known facts about the writing, editing, and compilation of the xian bible show that it is a product of those traditions. There is little evidence for many of the mundane events and ZERO evidence for any of the magical stuff. It's a fairy tale.

Quote:the bible says if you die your reward is in heaven, anything you do on earth thats your reward, very convienent to believe that you have a promise if you believe, the apostles did that and we will have to too against the antichrist.

Yes, it is convenient for you to believe that you will have a reward after you die. It is convenient for the priests and others who leech off the fears and hopes of the faithful. Many of them are also conning themselves but they are also conning the gullible into living a life devoted to a fantasy.

We keep telling you to read some of the scholarship about the actual creation of the bible and I'll bet you will not even consider doing that because it quickly shows that the book is not what you've been told it is. You have been lied to.

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23-10-2016, 08:12 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(22-10-2016 11:45 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but ..... christians are wrong .....

The True Christians are not wrong.

There are NO TRUE Christians ™

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23-10-2016, 08:24 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(23-10-2016 08:05 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
Quote:the bible says if you die your reward is in heaven, anything you do on earth thats your reward, very convienent to believe that you have a promise if you believe, the apostles did that and we will have to too against the antichrist.

Yes, it is convenient for you to believe that you will have a reward after you die. It is convenient for the priests and others who leech off the fears and hopes of the faithful. Many of them are also conning themselves but they are also conning the gullible into living a life devoted to a fantasy.

I forgot to note that I could not care less if it is convenient; I want to know if it is true. An inconvenient truth is much better than a convenient lie.

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23-10-2016, 03:09 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(22-10-2016 10:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  good god icant even begin to explain your blantent use of the text to fill your mind witgods bad.

Believe me kid we know. We know you can't even being to explain anything.

You can't even explain something that's blatant?

Blatant: completely lacking in subtlety; very obvious.

It should be noted that we don't think "god" is bad. We think he doesn't exist. What we're doing is giving examples of how YOU misinterpret the god you adhere to. Your perception of this character is distorted to fit your moral view. You're simple regurgitating everything you've been spoon fed your whole life. With out challenge it.

(22-10-2016 10:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  moses said that not god, the people so god punished them like david killing the wifes husband.

With out getting into a great deal of debate on weather Moses existed or not. So what?

I could present you with 10 people that say they speack on behalf of some god in one form and another. If I presented you with a person that killed children because they say that person says she was told to do it by God. Should their statement be accepted?

As follow ups are not your strong suit. I'll save us both the time.

No.

I would imagine that your first instinct would be "This person is fucking crazy."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/14...75605.html

What about if a person claims to be guied by god.

Jim Jones had that "message". And it ended in genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

So lets move the people back 4000 years? Does the blood on there hads come clean? Do their actions become more forgivable know that we can't tell if they were talked to or not? I would hope you say no. Because a person that finds this shit forgivable, lacks any or all empathy.


(22-10-2016 10:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  is that all you got yes i guess god harden it as he is indirectly involved in every bodies actions as god.

Hey he can read!

(22-10-2016 10:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  the bible says if you die your reward is in heaven, anything you do on earth thats your reward, very convienent to believe that you have a promise if you believe, the apostles did that and we will have to too against the antichrist.

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As we covered a lot.

Why should we take anything the bible says to be factual?

What method do you use to rule out fact from fiction?

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23-10-2016, 07:42 PM
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so pharoah did harden his heart. you can be a critic but i think god is just, he would never cause a good man to die. and you better get straight before the illuminati hits you. and thats the faith to be a goid person becuase there is an afterlife, and there not leeching the idea is being poor.
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23-10-2016, 08:01 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(23-10-2016 07:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  so pharoah did harden his heart. you can be a critic but i think god is just, he would never cause a good man to die. and you better get straight before the illuminati hits you. and thats the faith to be a goid person becuase there is an afterlife, and there not leeching the idea is being poor. tell me what does a true christian believe and what is a true christian becuase if you want to read word for word i will turn your whole world upside down, as i read the bible word for word as with any other christian.
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