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14-10-2016, 03:22 PM (This post was last modified: 14-10-2016 03:27 PM by jennybee.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 03:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(14-10-2016 01:44 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Meh. Is this thread going to boil down to a drive by?

Would you come back if everyone pounced on you from the start? Not me.

I would have liked to talk with him. Oh well.

Well, bemore's cats are kind of warm and fuzzy. Tongue But you are right, we need to hold our pouncing until they truly prove themselves pounce worthy. Wink
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14-10-2016, 04:41 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
Let's see if the things I know about the bible are wrong.

The stories it contains were written by human beings.
Most of those stories contain fictional characters.
Some stories reference real places and real people.
The god character is a fictional myth.
There are contradictions in the bible.
There are tens of thousands of different versions of the bible, so when people talk about THE bible, it's hard to say what version they are referring to.
The authors of Matthew, Mark Luke & John are anonymous.

Lastly the bible has been a source of inspiration that guides good men to commit atrocities.

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14-10-2016, 06:16 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 01:41 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(14-10-2016 01:15 PM)Impulse Wrote:  So there are at least three views of the bible - atheists, christians, and yours - why does god make his book/message so confusing? Consider

You grossly underestimate. Christians alone have hundreds of different views of the Bible.

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Ya know... I started to leave the words "at least" out because he/she only brought up the three views. But then I thought, someone will call me out for mentioning only three. So, it's a good thing I added those two words in there so no one would do such a thing... Tongue

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14-10-2016, 08:26 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 01:44 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Meh. Is this thread going to boil down to a drive by?

Maybe. But I've decided to give 48 hours before calling drive-bys, as a policy.

Has he been spamming other atheist sites? If not, probably not a drive-by.
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14-10-2016, 10:31 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 03:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(14-10-2016 01:44 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Meh. Is this thread going to boil down to a drive by?

Would you come back if everyone pounced on you from the start? Not me.

I would have liked to talk with him. Oh well.

I don't know, they lost me at "Everybodies wrong"

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15-10-2016, 01:03 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 03:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(14-10-2016 01:44 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Meh. Is this thread going to boil down to a drive by?

Would you come back if everyone pounced on you from the start? Not me.

I would have liked to talk with him. Oh well.

You're absolutely right! Let's clear the air right now Smile socialistview, I am a fellow theist and I am more than receptive to having a discussion with you about what your beliefs are, and how you're arriving at your conclusions through the Christian bible.

I'm a Jew, and due to our Hebrew language skills, we read our bible differently than the Christians read theirs. Maybe as you and I get into talking, we might find that the original texts could support your views better than the Christian translated text would seem to. This could make for an interesting conversation if you're receptive to it.
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15-10-2016, 04:23 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
G'day, and welcome to the forum. Smile

(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

I'm fine with you claiming to be a Christian; there's billions of others on our planet.

But... I disagree totally with your presupposition that some as yet unproven supernatural entity "wants" us to do anything in particular. As someone else has already said, firstly you have to prove—to atheists' satisfaction—that this "god" of yours actually exists, and influences us and the world we live in.

Can you please clarify—as a Christian—what specific parts of biblical scripture are wrong? Or do you believe that the entire Abrahamic bible is in error and/or bogus?

And if you do think the bible is wrong on all counts, then it's more than obvious you have no evidence of your purported god's existence yourself, and yet you refer to god's will. This just doesn't make any sense, as most Christians refer explicitly to scripture to support their beliefs.

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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15-10-2016, 04:39 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-10-2016 11:46 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Hey im christian but i believe both athiest and christians are wrong about the bible. I believe the bible is a book similar to budism but its fundamentals start with having rules. I believe in the end all god wants you do be is a virtuous compassionate giving person.

Maybe your a Buddhist and don't know it yet. That is the argument the Dalai Lama used to explain away religious terrorism :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people...17001.html

The Dalai Lama is wrong. The Christian religion is a death cult based on human sacrifice.

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15-10-2016, 08:34 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
Sounds like cherry picking to me. That seems to be where a lot of christians are heading these days. At least around where i live. They like the hippy feel-good Jesus parts but are bored and can't be bothered with the rest of the bible. Plus it helps with turning a blind eye to all the nasty shit in the bible if you just toss it out and embrace hippy Jesus.
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15-10-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(15-10-2016 08:34 AM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  Sounds like cherry picking to me. That seems to be where a lot of christians are heading these days. At least around where i live. They like the hippy feel-good Jesus parts but are bored and can't be bothered with the rest of the bible. Plus it helps with turning a blind eye to all the nasty shit in the bible if you just toss it out and embrace hippy Jesus.

Nothing wrong with that. Those types of people make for better neighbors, too. They're easier to deal with, less judgemental of others, and they're more inclined to be progressive.
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