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25-10-2016, 01:28 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
You must be my other world counter part. Nonsensei.

(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  im sorry christians dont have faith these days but it does say your sons and daughters in the last days will dream dreams,

OH SHIT! I've been dreaming dreams for decades now! THE FINAL DAYS ARE UPON US PEOPLE!

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(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  i think there was a pause on spirituality though you can try tarot cards or invoking see if that works it has for me.

Deuteronomy 18:9-12
When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Leviticus 19:31
Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

These are your rules not mine.


(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  faith is so you dont jump on the bandwagon miracles follow the believer if you want to have spiritual experiences you have to believe thats how it works.

Nope.

(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  and we still are waiting for spiritual stuff to happen like the coming of elija or the third temple to be built so god can reside there.

So your god couldn't build himself a house? Can make earth heaven and the stars, but not a little place to call his own?

(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  and ive beaten you in showing that god didnt order to kill everybody except the virgins that was moses,

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(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  noah was trying to tell everybody but nobody listened.

It's been estimated the the world population around the supposed time of the christian Noah story would have been 1 million. Noah would have been some where around the Euphrates. (especially since this story was pulled for a much older story the Epic of Gilgamesh.) So your trying to say. Noah personally walked from what is now modern day Iraq, threw china, threw Africa, threw Europe swam the oceans to get to the islands, and the Americas. And still have time to gather up all the animals, and build a boat? If the world was as harsh as you claim how did you word it everybody was Hitler. Which let's be honest here. if everyone was Hitler then everything would have gone smoothly because that's the type of world Hitler wanted. The world to be like him.

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(25-10-2016 12:44 PM)socialistview Wrote:  you just putting verses not reading the whole thing plus theres nothing bad about those verses. and they were lost they just couldnt go into the promise land. and pharoah was already going to harden his heart, free slavery with a grudge especially the grudge i think the bible has.

Yeah but slavery was different back then. It was more like indentured servitude. Slaves were treated nicely. The Jews should have been thanking the Pharaoh for all the kindness he was doing for them. *I say in the most sarcastic way possible.*

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25-10-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
its been argued to be around 5,000 bc. for miracles read matthew 12: 38-42
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25-10-2016, 02:31 PM
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(25-10-2016 02:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  its been argued to be around 5,000 bc. for miracles read matthew 12: 38-42

We've read it. It's myth. Drinking Beverage

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25-10-2016, 02:32 PM
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(25-10-2016 02:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  its been argued to be around 5,000 bc. for miracles read matthew 12: 38-42

Huh

What's been argued to be around 5000 BC? You know, it would help if you quoted the post you're replying to. In a thread with hundreds of posts by different people, you can't just make a statement out of the blue. Nobody knows what you're referring to. At least I don't.
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25-10-2016, 02:33 PM
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(25-10-2016 02:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  its been argued to be around 5,000 bc. for miracles read matthew 12: 38-42

Kid, do yourself a favour and read a fucken book or three. You really have no fucken clue and watching you flail around is kinda sad. At first it was a bit funny but now I'm starting to feel embarrassed.

Stop assuming that you're right and working back to some half-arsed miserable excuse for an argument, and learn what actual rational argument is. Then you can come back and debate.

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25-10-2016, 03:05 PM (This post was last modified: 25-10-2016 03:13 PM by Commonsensei.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(25-10-2016 02:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  its been argued to be around 5,000 bc. for miracles read matthew 12: 38-42

Quote:An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. Matthew 12:39

So is this you saying that you don't think Jesus preformed many signs and wonders?

Because only an evil and adulterous generation seeks signs. And Jesus refused to do any.

Quote:And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Mark 8:12
Quote:This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. Luke 11:29


Quote:12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Jesus believed in the literal truth of the fish story in Jonah. He predicts that he will be "in the heart of the earth" for three days and three nights. If by this he meant that he would be in the tomb for three days and three nights, then either he was mistaken or the gospels are in error. Because according to the gospels (this is one of the few things they all seem to agree on), Jesus was in the tomb for only one day and two nights.

So another intresting thing you mind fin is the whole Jonah and the Fish story. According to Jonah 1:7 Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. We now know. That Whale are not fish. They are mammals. But in Mathew it refers to it as a Whale.

So which was it? A big fish? Or a Whale?

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Now Hey maybe I'll even give you a hand on this one. And say it was a Whale Shark. The worlds largest fish.

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They grow as long as 50 feet and can way over 16 tons. With a huge gaping mouth that get as wide as 5 feet. A massive fish. The largest fish living today. And it even lives in the regains of the middle east.

BUT

They don't eat meat. They only eat plankton. Even by accident they couldn't swallow you. They'd just throw you up. A study done in 2010 Phillip Motta, a researcher at the University of South Florida did this test and I quote.

"We actually threw seawater soaked rice in front of whale sharks to time the flow of water into the mouth as they filter fed on the surface. They would spit out the one handful of rice as soon as it enter the mouth. We also threw Sargasso seaweed in front of them and they spit that out also."

Him and his team found that animals really didn't like eating anything foreign to their diet.

http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/201...erson.html

The other question would be how long can YOU hold your breath underwater?

30 seconds? 3 mins?

Japanese pearl divers that do it for a living only go about 7 mintes. The world record is 22 mins. So how can a person survive 3 days and 3 nights in a belly of a sea dwelling animal, that inhales it constantly? Almost sounds like a work of ... FICTION?

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25-10-2016, 03:29 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
jesus went to hell got the keys from satan and came back.
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25-10-2016, 03:33 PM
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(25-10-2016 03:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  jesus went to hell got the keys from satan and came back.

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25-10-2016, 03:34 PM
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(25-10-2016 03:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  jesus went to hell got the keys from satan and came back.

Is that why people always pray for help finding keys? Is that what he's good at?

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25-10-2016, 03:34 PM
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(25-10-2016 03:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  jesus went to hell got the keys from satan and came back.

He ain't got nothin' on Orpheus, who went to hell and charmed them into giving him back his dead wife (althought that didn't quite work out in the end). And Orpheus was a much better musician than Jesus. So there's that.
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