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05-11-2016, 02:35 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
How can you say mythology with no evidence of not being real. The book the jews read at their batmitva isn't authintic the books of moses. You dont evn know that men have been thinking on how to define god since centuries in the jewish community by what they are given they determine how to see god. Who cares about who wrote it and whatever the fact is that you get the gist of it they can't change it that much where the story is totally different. And they got these stories by different manuscripts from other religions. if there was no god why do we have so much of text exclaiming a god. They had extensive knowldge of how things worked in this world the library of alexandria and it would be not far fected that when somebody saw something supernatural then it happened. it was said that back then people had better understanding of the way or the supernatural to be able to do things like that but ever heard of the keys of solomon which the knights of templar took from solomons temple and now the freemason use and have today. So you can do it but it takes practice to do and as paul says signs follow the believer its like being loyal to a king.
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05-11-2016, 02:42 PM (This post was last modified: 05-11-2016 02:46 PM by adey67.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
Fuck me. Satan has returned all hail the socialist idiot/ wanker. Are you that fucking stupid that you use a document to prove a document? Even I am not that dumb.
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05-11-2016, 03:02 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(05-11-2016 02:35 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How can you say mythology with no evidence of not being real.

We say there is no evidence of it being real because there is no evidence of it being real. If you think there is evidence then please provide it.

Quote:The book the jews read at their batmitva isn't authintic the books of moses.

How do you know that? (Other than the fact the "Moses" likely never existed and certainly didn't do the stuff claimed and didn't write the pentateuch.) It was their book before the Christians bastardized it.

Quote:You dont evn know that men have been thinking on how to define god since centuries in the jewish community by what they are given they determine how to see god.

You shot who in the what now? Seriously, try writing sentences that actually make sense.

Quote:Who cares about who wrote it and whatever the fact is that you get the gist of it they can't change it that much where the story is totally different.

You know that how? That's kind of the point of looking into who wrote it and who changed it and why. Since you just accept it without giving it any thought at all it isn't surprising that you don't understand.

Quote:And they got these stories by different manuscripts from other religions. if there was no god why do we have so much of text exclaiming a god.

Perhaps because people like to make up stories to explain things that they don't understand. It is not surprising at all that supernatural beliefs were common across primitive cultures.

Quote:They had extensive knowldge of how things worked in this world the library of alexandria

You know what they had in Alexandria how?

Quote:and it would be not far fected that when somebody saw something supernatural then it happened.

Yes, it would be extremely far-fetched. People make things up all the time. People exaggerate. People misunderstand what they think they see. People misremember what they actually saw.

We have NO confirmation of anything supernatural. We don't even have a coherent definition of what that is or any reliable way to test for it. There is absolutely no justification for labeling anything as supernatural.

Quote: it was said that back then people had better understanding of the way or the supernatural to be able to do things like that

Said by who? What's the evidence that is true? How can it be true when we can't demonstrate ANYTHING to be supernatural and we have no way to investigate what actually happened.

Quote: but ever heard of the keys of solomon which the knights of templar took from solomons temple and now the freemason use and have today.

What does that have to do with anything? Even if there really are keys and you could show that they date to the right time and place what would it matter? Temples existed. Keys existed. They aren't evidence of anything supernatural.

Quote: So you can do it but it takes practice to do and as paul says signs follow the believer its like being loyal to a king.

You mean if you just believe and don't investigate then you can convince yourself that your beliefs are true because you believe them. Congratulations, you have just defined total gullibility.

I keep asking you for evidence for what you believe and you keep coming back with nothing but more baseless claims. If you want to convince anybody that this apparent nonsense actually has merit you need to substantiate it and not just keep repeating it.

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05-11-2016, 03:05 PM
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It would help if he could spell.
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05-11-2016, 03:08 PM
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Quote:Who cares about who wrote it

Actually that's seems to me pretty important when we are talking about the supposed word of a perfect God, a book in which we would live around it accepting it blindly and etc.

I mean, if isn't a God that wrote it why should we care?

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05-11-2016, 03:12 PM (This post was last modified: 05-11-2016 03:28 PM by Velvet.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(05-11-2016 03:02 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
Quote: but ever heard of the keys of solomon which the knights of templar took from solomons temple and now the freemason use and have today.

What does that have to do with anything? Even if there really are keys and you could show that they date to the right time and place what would it matter? Temples existed. Keys existed. They aren't evidence of anything supernatural.

Key of Solomon is not actually a key, is a book about magic mistakenly attributed to Solomon.

EDIT: Here, cool, it being not actually by Solomon is already common sense, good to know.

EDIT2: I already gave up this guy.
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05-11-2016, 03:47 PM
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(05-11-2016 03:12 PM)Velvet Wrote:  Key of Solomon is not actually a key, is a book about magic mistakenly attributed to Solomon.

Thanks, I hadn't heard of that before, only his mines. A book of "magic" sounds even less useful than an actual key.

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05-11-2016, 04:00 PM
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SV - in 2017 a UFO will be in plain sight hovering over London just a few meters from the top of London Bridge. It stays there for 6 months for millions of people around the world to see.

In 2087 (70 yrs later) someone writes about this amazing story. No pictures. Just a hand written story.

No one in 2017 - 2086 wrote or documented seeing this UFO.

What are your conclusions about the story written in 2087 ?

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05-11-2016, 05:43 PM
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(05-11-2016 04:00 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  SV - in 2017 a UFO will be in plain sight hovering over London just a few meters from the top of London Bridge. It stays there for 6 months for millions of people around the world to see.

In 2087 (70 yrs later) someone writes about this amazing story. No pictures. Just a hand written story.

No one in 2017 - 2086 wrote or documented seeing this UFO.

What are your conclusions about the story written in 2087 ?

I say we would be bombing them in 1 hour max after first contact so if the thing stood there for 6 months it was a very resistant UFO.

6 months is a long time probably we would have erased London from the map with so many things we would throw on this shit.

(Yeah I got your point)



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05-11-2016, 06:13 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(05-11-2016 02:35 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How can you say mythology with no evidence of not being real.

The inability of any believer to get Me the Talking Snake™ that I keep asking them for. Any luck yet on that front?

Quote:if there was no god why do we have so much of text exclaiming a god.

Because some people want to believe in gods, and they make up stories and teach them to children as "the truth," despite having no actual empirical evidence to back them up.

Quote:They had extensive knowldge of how things worked in this world the library of alexandria...

...which was burned at the behest of an anti-pagan emperor and a bishop.

Quote:but ever heard of the keys of solomon...

Heard of them? I used to have a copy of them. I sold it to a second-hand bookstore when I was clearing all the woo-woo junk out of My library. Nothing special there.
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