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12-11-2016, 12:26 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
There has to be more than this. Mabe energy... meaning scientifical energy working in auroras. why can't energy be the supernatural that can be more stronger.
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12-11-2016, 12:30 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 12:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  So dark wanderer you believe in evolution. So gullible to say that those ape bones look like human bones.

When the fuck did I say anything about evolution?
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12-11-2016, 12:31 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be more than this. Mabe energy... meaning scientifical energy working in auroras. why can't energy be the supernatural that can be more stronger.

Scientifical? Really? Who are you, George W. Bush?
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12-11-2016, 12:51 AM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2016 12:56 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be more than this.

No, there doesn't. Wanting it to be so, does not make it so. Without evidence, you have nothing. Conjecture and desire does not make it true, it does not spring things into existence by fiat.


(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Mabe energy... meaning scientifical energy working in auroras.

'Scientifical' is not a word...

If there was any form of energy that could affect us, we'd have already detected it. If you want to posit a new energy, then get to work.
  • What is it?
  • How is it measured?
  • How is it transmitted?
  • How does it interact with matter?
  • How would that interaction have an affect on humans?
  • How is it different from the other 4 fundamental forces (strong/weak nuclear, gravity, electromagnetic)?

Answer these questions, and you'll earn yourself a Nobel Prize. But until you can, you're talking nothing but bullshit.


(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  why can't energy be the supernatural that can be more stronger.

Do you even know what supernatural means?

If it's supernatural, that means it's not a part of nature, and is therefor beyond the reach of our ability to test, falsify, or otherwise interact with it. If such a thing exists, it is outside our reality, and thus cannot affect our reality. If such a thing could affect us, then that affect can theoretically be tested and measured, and thus would no longer be supernatural (i.e. outside of nature).




This is how utterly out of your depth you are. How can you hope to convince us of anything when you cannot even be bothered to properly understand the words you are using? One might as well be playing chess with pigeons.

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12-11-2016, 03:16 AM
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(12-11-2016 12:12 AM)socialistview Wrote:  So dark wanderer you believe in evolution. So gullible to say that those ape bones look like human bones.

"Gullible"? Laugh out load

Kid, I have a degree in that subject. You really want to play in that arena, credulity-boy?

Jokes aside, I want you to stop, forget everything you know or think you know, and LOOK at these skulls:

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The one at the top-right, Homo habilis, is the ancestor of all modern humans. The two on the bottom row are the middle-link, Homo erectus on the left, while the one on the right is Homo neandertalensis, which is our cousin species (not ancestors) and was so close to us that when our ancestors left Africa and moved to Eurasia where they already had been living for half a million years, they were still able to interbreed. We know this because we have tested Neadertal DNA sequences and can identify fragments of it in modern Asian and European populations (in small amounts). Both the skulls on the bottom row are the size of modern human skulls-- the Neandertals were actually slightly larger-brained.

I know you've been trained to say such skulls are "just apes" or "just humans", but I want you to LOOK CLOSELY at them, especially at the foreheads.

Now touch your own forehead, right above your eyebrow ridges, and trace that angle up to your hairline. It's nearly vertical, right? Look again at those skulls. See how it goes straight back from the brow ridges, in all of them?

Our ape ancestors all have that skull shape. What makes us different, then, with our vertical foreheads? It's called neoteny, meaning that we retain our infant/child skull shape into adulthood, allowing for a bigger frontal lobe. You can see that apes share "our" skull shape as infants, only sloping backward as they mature:

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Now if they're "just apes", then why are they bipeds of our approximate height? Or if they're "just humans", why do they have the ape forehead shape but our skull/brain size?

By the way, if you take a real biology course, you will learn how to look at the bones with an expert's eye, rather than a jaundiced one that doesn't want to see what's clearly there.

It is amazing-- no, the word is "baffling"-- to me that you could look at those skulls and say that we are the ones who are gullible.

Evolution is real. You're a mammal and an ape. Deal with it, dude. Whatever else is or isn't true about religion, that's just the way it is.

"Theology made no provision for evolution. The biblical authors had missed the most important revelation of all! Could it be that they were not really privy to the thoughts of God?" - E. O. Wilson
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12-11-2016, 03:22 AM
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(12-11-2016 03:16 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Both the skulls on the bottom row are the size of modern human skulls-- the Neandertals were actually slightly larger-brained.

And if I remember correctly, that may have contributed to their extinction. The brain is already the most calorie intensive organ we have, and so a larger brain would require even more calories. Now place that in the context of an Ice Age making food scare, and competition with the smaller and more calorie efficient Homo Sapiens? They couldn't afford their larger brains, and what might have been an advantage before then became a liability, when competing for scarce resources.

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12-11-2016, 04:38 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 12:31 AM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  
(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be more than this. Mabe energy... meaning scientifical energy working in auroras. why can't energy be the supernatural that can be more stronger.

Scientifical? Really? Who are you, George W. Bush?

Oh come on, Dubya was a fucking genius compared to this moron.
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12-11-2016, 06:18 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be more than this. Mabe energy... meaning scientifical energy working in auroras. why can't energy be the supernatural that can be more stronger.

You're basically a poo-flinging monkey, you throw out assertions with zero evidence and think that some of that shit will stick to the wall.

You've made assertions about evolution, which you are too ignorant about to even comprehend or discuss.

You've made assertions about biblical history which you are too ignorant about to even discuss.

You've made assertions about ghosts, astrology and tarot cards, which you are too ignorant about to even discuss.

Here is a link that explains explicitly, from a Christian perspective, that astrology is absolutely forbidden in the bible:

What does the Bible say about astrology or the zodiac? Is astrology something a Christian should study?

You have already demonstrated you are too lazy and dishonest to actually research things that don't back up your presuppositions, the title of this thread is evidence of your intellectual failings.

Every bodies wrong, that's a title that says- I have figured it out and everyone else is ignorant. This is called projection, where you accuse everyone else of being what you are.

You are a silly child, a poo-flinging monkey that thinks you have the answers, when we debunk your naive view of the world, you simply stare blankly and throw some more poo to see if it sticks.

Unless you are actually willing to learn things that DON'T support your presuppositions, then this entire thread is pointless. Perhaps all that you have accomplished is to demonstrate to other people that read this thread, just how insane and convoluted your belief system is.

You are ill-equipped to discuss any subject on this forum, ESPECIALLY the bible, you are simply cherry-picking what you want to believe, like this bizarre blend of witchcraft/divination/Christianity that you believe.

What I see is another person that simply created their own personal religion and ignores those parts of the religious book that you don't want to follow.

This is endemic of your entire post history, you created this world view and then ignore or force fit everything into your world view. Instead of letting anything based on evidence to shape your world view, your world view shapes the evidence.

This is exactly the reverse of a rational approach to creating a world view, in fact it's a logical fallacy, the post-hoc fallacy.

Conclusion-Information-rationalization-unchanged conclusion, that is your thought process.

Here is what an intellectually honest person does- Theory-Information-changed conclusion based on information.

Information/evidence PRECEDES your conclusions. You stop with the rationalizations/post-hoc fallacies and then begin to actually learn.

You wear your intellectual failure as a badge of pride, because "everybody's wrong" to the intellectual poser that lacks the courage and is too mentally lazy to seriously reevaluate your presuppositions.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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12-11-2016, 06:36 AM
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(11-11-2016 04:00 PM)unfogged Wrote:  Of course not. SV will just move on to some other nonsensical claim.

(11-11-2016 10:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Try witchcraft open portals and stuff lets see if something doesn't haunt you. What about astrology lets see if that changes your mind. I'm an aquarious you can call me the waterbearer.

Called it

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12-11-2016, 06:49 AM
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(12-11-2016 06:36 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(11-11-2016 10:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Try witchcraft open portals and stuff lets see if something doesn't haunt you. What about astrology lets see if that changes your mind. I'm an aquarious you can call me the waterbearer.

Called it


That's unfortunate, as I love thinking with Portals.




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