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12-11-2016, 07:28 AM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2016 07:47 AM by unfogged.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(11-11-2016 08:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  God said not to sacrifice children so there's morality.

Except, of course for when he did order the slaughter of entire peoples, including the children.

If you get your morality by following a set of orders from somebody else then you are not a moral agent. You are simply doing what you are told. You have no way to judge whether your god's orders are good or bad because you have simply decided to follow orders blindly. You need to start looking at each position and evaluating for yourself if it is a good or a bad way to act.

Quote:The fig tree wasn't giving fruit and the demon possed pigs flee off themselves.

It was the wrong season for fruit and even if it wasn't, the tree can't reasonably be accused of deliberately withholding fruit just to piss off Jesus. As for the demons in the fairytale, they were driven out by Jesus and then forced into the pigs. It takes a special kind of dishonesty to read it the way you present it.

Quote:Is this more of a reliable source I know its not whatever erhman who downs christianity for reasons that christians know not to do but it does quote repretable people.

Clay Jones? Associate Professor of Christian Apologetics at Biola University? A reliable source? Laughat
Biola could not be any less reliable. They start from the position that the bible is 100% accurate and reliable and then attempt to find ways to interpret things to support that position. That is NOT how rational investigation works.

(11-11-2016 08:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  So believe. Why don't you try this for yourself. Maby you should tith and see if money magically comes back to you. God said that's the only thing you can test him in.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy, not a way of life.

Quote: I thought I could be telepathic and it worked took a while but it worked. Thanks for reminding me about this one.

More unsupported bullshit claims. I will guarantee that you are not telepathic. If you were, you'd be the first.

(11-11-2016 09:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Imagine this world being like an illusion. And whatever we decide to hapoen happens, we have control over this world not the world having control over us.

Sounds like an interesting premise for a sci-fi/fantasy story. It has nothing to do with reality.

Quote:And then as buddism we can be like monks and ride ourselves of all the wordly vices.

Non-sequitor is your middle name, right?

Quote:Thats what the bible says.

Where exactly does the bible say that?

Quote:And god stopped him from sacrificing his son and man killed god.

God asked him to kill his son and he agreed. That was an immoral test and an immoral response. He was rewarded for that response and that's also immoral. Whether he went through with it or not is irrelevant. The point is that Abram was fully accepting of the idea that his god could demand a human sacrifice and that he had no choice but to comply. Your bible is NOT a good basis for moral reasoning except as an example of what not to do.

Man didn't kill god, man imagined god.

Quote: A perfect man without sin to open the gate to heaven.

In the story, he wasn't a man, he was a god man, so that little apologetic is worthless. Also, why is killing something perfect required for forgiveness? It's an utterly disgusting, wholly immoral mindset.

Quote:And jesus was killed by his own people, god will punish the leader for steering them wrong, many of the prophets and apostles were killed by there own people and they still forgave. Be like ghandi and say I forgive you before he was shot.

God didn't forgive the killing, he required the killing in order to forgive. He also arranged the killing. The whole story is just incredibly fucked up.

(11-11-2016 09:12 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And no the demons themselves asked to go into the pigs.

So jesus had to obey the demons? Why should he care what the demons asked for? What had the pigs done to deserve being used like that? Your attempts at rationalizing these atrocious stories shows how little you actually think about any of it. Blind acceptance of an immoral theology is just pathetic.

(11-11-2016 09:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Well there will be restitution think about it we as christians still have to think about getting our heads chopped off by the antichrist.

Perhaps you'd do better to worry about things that are real and not waste time on imaginary threats.

Quote:And the world is real but the supernatural is realer,

Prove it. I'll wait.

Quote:actually I think as Einstein said we have to come from our feelings that we have for ourselves and feel objectively as a society as a whole meaning care for someone other than yourself.

I can usually figure out what you are trying to say but that one has me stumped. It's just gibberish. I'm sure the reference to Einstein is an appeal to authority fallacy since he was not an expert on feelings or society or anything else you seem to be babbling about.

(11-11-2016 09:50 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Ever heard of the emittyville horror stories.

Yes, I've read it. It's a relatively poorly written horrow story that was made into a low-quality movie. As a work of fiction it can be used to kill some time but it isn't evidence of anything except the writer's imagination. You really are gullible, aren't you?

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12-11-2016, 07:35 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(11-11-2016 11:37 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I'm an aquarious sun leo moon and pisces ascendant. So do you believe in astrology. I can see you would act like an scorpio which my best friend was a scorpio and I admire there unrelenting qualities. And you feel like a capricorn care about people wasting your time. and leo very promiscous but dont know if your scorpio ascendant tempers that into a life partner.

Wow.
Just wow.




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12-11-2016, 08:25 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 12:26 AM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be more than this. Mabe energy... meaning scientifical energy working in auroras. why can't energy be the supernatural that can be more stronger....

Try witchcraft open portals and stuff lets see if something doesn't haunt you. What about astrology lets see if that changes your mind. I'm an aquarious you can call me the waterbearer...

Lets see if this matches your personality not the best source I would choose but lets see. http://www.astrology-zodiac-signs.com/...

I'm an aquarious sun leo moon and pisces ascendant. So do you believe in astrology. I can see you would act like an scorpio which my best friend was a scorpio and I admire there unrelenting qualities. And you feel like a capricorn care about people wasting your time. and leo very promiscous but dont know if your scorpio ascendant tempers that into a life partner...

Mabe you should try a sign that fits you becuase I love tauruses but there lack of adventure seeking and conservatism turns me off and its hard to keep a warm ongoing bond with them. What made you not believe in astrology anymore. And what's your zodiac sign dark wanderer....

So dark wanderer you believe in evolution. So gullible to say that those ape bones look like human bones...

I must admit that it's been a long time between drinks since I've seen such a massive truckload of unmitigated bullshit, fantasy, pseudo-scientific woo, and Dark Ages mythology presented as fact.

Anybody living in a scientifically-enlightened 21st century (as atheists do) would have to have some sort of brain dysfunction to believe—even minimally—in the silly notions of astrology and auras and witchcraft etc.

Socialistview, you might like to check out THIS site which convincingly debunks the nonsensical practices of astrology. And please give us your thoughts on this scientific repudiation.

BTW; atheists don't simply believe (—to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so) in the theory of evolution—we accept it as proved by empirical, science-based evidence.

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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12-11-2016, 02:12 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(11-11-2016 10:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I'm an aquarious you can call me the waterbearer.

It's both more fun and more accurate to call you a fucking idiot.

By the way: *Aquarius.
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12-11-2016, 03:28 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
No jesus said heavens here on earth. What about ghost they say there energy and they give off magnetic waves. Well I'm a science major so I've taken biology I know everything about it. We have never found a common link between any animal changing from one form to another ever and microevolution doesn't explain macro. I wish I remember my early classes I could tell you the flaws of evolution.
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12-11-2016, 03:37 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 03:28 PM)socialistview Wrote:  No jesus said heavens here on earth.

So did Belinda Carlisle




Quote:What about ghost they say there energy and they give off magnetic waves.

Who are "they"? How exactly did they test that conjecture? Where are the peer-reviewed papers outlining the methods used, the data that resulted, and the conclusions drawn?

Quote:Well I'm a science major so I've taken biology I know everything about it.

You should ask for a refund.

Quote:We have never found a common link between any animal changing from one form to another ever and microevolution doesn't explain macro. I wish I remember my early classes I could tell you the flaws of evolution.

Except that you are just wrong. Please explain the mechanism that prevents small changes (the so-called "micro evolution") from accumulating into large changes. Every reputable biologist accepts the fact of evolution and the theory of natural selection is the best explanation we have for the observed evidence.

Claiming that you just can't remember the reasons why evolution is wrong right after claiming that you "know everything about" biology because you took a class on it is hilarious. You do realize that every post you write makes you look worse than the one before, right? Keep it up. I need the laughs these days.

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12-11-2016, 03:38 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 02:12 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  By the way: *Aquarius.

When the moon is in the seventh house

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12-11-2016, 03:55 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
You know the reason why you don't see aliens and stuff on earth like goat people and forest nymps is becuase god told everything that is not earth born to leave during the time when the angels had sex with women and created giants and Hercules. I like to think the illuminati is showing you what happened in clash of titans. You don't understand that it takes years of studying and meditation to do miracles and things you want to see. Its only by occultist circles like the freemasons who practice things like that and you have to be in it to see and do it. God said an adulterous generation ask for a sign and none will be given except the sign of jonah, which means you will only hear about it. When he refer to adulterous hes meaning that your going to rebel and rebel like the jews even if he shows himself to you.
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12-11-2016, 03:58 PM
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I took the class when I was 18 bio 1 and 2 and they don't really teach evolution in biology that's for just how cells work pretty much but let me study again ill get back to you on that.
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12-11-2016, 03:59 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(12-11-2016 03:55 PM)socialistview Wrote:  You know the reason why you don't see aliens and stuff on earth like goat people and forest nymps is becuase god told everything that is not earth born to leave during the time when the angels had sex with women and created giants and Hercules. I like to think the illuminati is showing you what happened in clash of titans. You don't understand that it takes years of studying and meditation to do miracles and things you want to see. Its only by occultist circles like the freemasons who practice things like that and you have to be in it to see and do it. God said an adulterous generation ask for a sign and none will be given except the sign of jonah, which means you will only hear about it. When he refer to adulterous hes meaning that your going to rebel and rebel like the jews even if he shows himself to you.

You're a poe, you've outlived any possible usefulness to this forum.

Hopefully the mods will put you out of our misery, don't you have some Christian forums you'd like to stalk with your stupidity?

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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