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13-11-2016, 11:50 PM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Well god forgives me.

No. An imaginary being cannot forgive. You forgave yourself.

Quote:And im talking about doing witcraft you wanker which is no different than what the jews did.

I suspect that many devout Jews would take issue with your assertion that they do witchcraft.

Quote:n fact tarot cards come from christianity all witchcraft originates from judiasm

Absolutely false. Similar traditions exist in virtually every pre-scientific culture, including those that did not have any contact with Judaism.

Quote:Why are you so big about proof

Because it's a much better guide to reality than your silly beliefs.

Quote:wev never seen an ape turn into a human...

Do you have any idea whatsoever how long it took for humans and apes to evolve from our common ancestor? Millions of years. The only reason we haven't seen it is that we don't live that long. We do, however, have DNA analysis, which shows that we share about 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees.
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14-11-2016, 12:11 AM (This post was last modified: 14-11-2016 12:17 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Well god forgives me.

No he doesn't, because he doesn't exist. But it does make for a handy tool to wave away your guilt without actually doing anything of substance.


(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And im talking about doing witcraft you wanker which is no different than what the jews did.

Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.


The ancient Hebrew wrote that, dipshit. Don't like it? Worship a different god. Drinking Beverage


(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  in fact tarot cards come from christianity all witchcraft originates from judiasm they just couldn't use baal to divine as I showed you an article of evidence that they did do socery.

No, witchcraft does not originate with Judaism you daft cunt. The pagans didn't need Judaism to make up their own shit. All you need is an overactive imagination and a complete lack of skepticism, of which you have both in spades.


(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And there's a time for everything god will eventually take evil out.

A god that can eliminate evil, but does not, is malicious.

We have evidence of evil and suffering all around us, very well documented. But as for the promise that your god will do anything to fix it? The very problem he's responsible for creating? No evidence whatsoever.

So good money says that, if your god exists, he either cannot do anything to fix it (he is impotent) or he doesn't care to (he is malevolent).

Because if he cared, and had the power, then why wait? Every moment of needless suffering that he could stop, but chooses not to, it ultimately his fault. You call such a being god? Sounds more like the devil to me. Drinking Beverage


(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Danial 11 tells you all that will happen before his coming.

His coming is long past due.

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)


How many generation have come and gone since that supposed proclamation? You're in a apocalyptic death cult, and you don't even know it. Read your own fucking book.


(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Why are you so big about proof wev never seen an ape turn into a human and you still believe in it by pretty much faith hoping that your theory comes out right from evidence that you now have right.

Fucking hell...

Evolution is not a chimpanzee turning into a human. We had a common ancestor with chimpanzees, and the other great apes, long ago. They are our evolutionary cousins, not our ancestors. We are apes, in the same way that we are also mammals, warm blooded, tetrapods, and prokaryotic. You cannot describe a primate without also describing the characteristics of a human, because humans are primates.

Also, we do not need faith. We have evidence. The fact of evolution stands on its own, it does not need your faith to be true, it is evidently true regardless of your belief in it. Because that's how true things work, they remain true independent of personal belief. That's why we believe in evolution, because it is evidently true.

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14-11-2016, 12:22 AM (This post was last modified: 14-11-2016 12:26 AM by RocketSurgeon76.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(13-11-2016 11:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Why are you so big about proof wev never seen an ape turn into a human and you still believe in it by pretty much faith hoping that your theory comes out right from evidence that you now have right.

STOP AND LISTEN. YOU ARE FAILING BADLY.

Apes do not "turn into" humans, and certainly not in a way that could be "seen" with your eyeballs. That's not how evolution works. When you say shit like this, it only tells us that you have no idea what you're talking about.

But no, we don't believe it by faith. There are numerous ways to tell that we are evolutionary cousins (that is, we have a distant grandfather species, from which we both descend), but since my particular field is in genetics, I have tried to explain to you how we can look at the inactive markers that are passed down intact from generation to generation, in order to tell if Group A is related to Group B, and how long ago they shared a common ancestor. The same techniques that work in the courtroom also work to compare species.

I already explained this to you. But you didn't listen. You failed to learn. And now you are regurgitating the same crap as before.

Why? I am an expert in evolutionary biology. My wife and I both are trained in this field. When I tell you that you have the most basic definitional elements totally wrong, you should listen.

But you don't. That tells me you are either not an honest person, or that religion has damaged your mind to the point that you are incapable of talking truthfully.

Edit to Add: If I was trying to tell you that Christians believe that Mary the mother of Jesus was a goddess married to Yahweh/Jehovah, you would tell me that I have a basic defining element of Christianity dead wrong. If I kept repeating that stuff about Mary, instead of listening to a Christian tell me that that's not what you believe at all, what would you conclude about my honesty and/or intellect?

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14-11-2016, 02:27 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
Were 98% with the praying mantus. And I understand common ancestor I'm saying that there was none we all come from the dirt so it may seem that we all had a common ancestor. And jews had their own magic the kabbalah is a magic book.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and...agic-books
Its like darwin he speculated and now we found proof . And you don't understand theory, one new finding could disrupt all what you see as a quatum mechanics is big on that we don't know if well have gravity tommarrow.
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14-11-2016, 02:42 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Were 98% with the praying mantus. And I understand common ancestor I'm saying that there was none we all come from the dirt so it may seem that we all had a common ancestor. And jews had their own magic the kabbalah is a magic book.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and...agic-books
Its like darwin he speculated and now we found proof . And you don't understand theory, one new finding could disrupt all what you see as a quatum mechanics is big on that we don't know if well have gravity tommarrow.

You can't just string words together amigo. They have to make sense. This is basic talking 101. Babies get it. Why don't you?

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14-11-2016, 02:43 AM
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14-11-2016, 02:48 AM
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Just as much energy in the beginning reaction is just as much energy in the end result, so think of life being the end result loss of the substrate also.
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14-11-2016, 03:00 AM (This post was last modified: 14-11-2016 05:17 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Were 98% with the praying mantus.

It's 'mantis' with an 'i', dipshit.

No we are not. Given your intellect however, you just might.

Human genetic similarity with the common fruit fly sits around 61%. That 61% represents many things that are fundamental to the function of all life on this planet, like the creation and usage of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) for cellular energy. All life that uses that will share the same bit of DNA that coed's for it's function. Given how similar the chemical basis for life is across the board, it's no surprise that even far removed animal and plant life still shares a healthy amount of genetic material. Even a very small percentage can have a huge impact. Everything that makes us uniquely human lies within that 1~2% difference between us and Chimpanzees. Written language, advanced mathematics, space travel, almost all of human achievement, contained within that tiny percentage that separates us from them.


(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  And I understand common ancestor

That would be 'ancestry' in the past tense.

No, you do not. Your every post is an indictment against your supposed understanding of anything.


(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I'm saying that there was none we all come from the dirt so it may seem that we all had a common ancestor.

Fortunately the uneducated opinion of a credulous religious dipshit with no professional training or expertise means FUCK ALL.


(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  And jews had their own magic the kabbalah is a magic book.

That book is no more magical than this one.

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Plus, you're just now noticing that ancient religions that were constantly being modified by humans with political and personal agendas just might have contradictory teachings precisely because they were not divinely inspired?

Nah, you're not that intelligent or self reflective.


(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Its like darwin he speculated and now we found proof .

That is 'Darwin'. Names, like other proper nouns, are capitalized.

Except, where Charles Darwin and all scientists since then have found evidence in support of and corroborating with common ancestry and descent with modification, you've yet to present any hard evidence for your bullshit.

Eyewitnesses testimony is not evidence. If we were to take your bullshit as evidence, then not only would we have to take your bullshit as true, but that standard of evidence is so low that we'd also have to believe all other religious claims, charlatans, and frauds. To believe you would be to also believe that Islam is true, and that Buddhism is true, and that Hinduism is true, and that plethora of Native American beliefs are true, and that New Age mysticism is true; even though they are quite often contradictory and mutually exclusive.

They cannot all be true, but they can all be false.


(14-11-2016 02:27 AM)socialistview Wrote:  And you don't understand theory, one new finding could disrupt all what you see as a quatum mechanics is big on that we don't know if well have gravity tommarrow.


We do understand, you do not.

The theory of evolution was put forth before the discovery of genetics. The study of genetics could have utterly undermined the theory of evolution. Darwin had no knowledge of the human genome.

But it didn't.

It's now some of the best evidence we have. The members of the animal kingdom that are the closest to us morphological (the other great apes) are also the most similar to us on a genetic level.

The other great apes all have 24 pairs of chromosomes, but humans only have 23 pairs. Why is that? Well, if the theory of evolution holds true, then we had a common ancestor. Therefore the ancestor of humans most likely also had 24 pairs of chromosomes, just like our great ape cousins. If that were true, then what happened to the missing chromosome? Well, simply losing one would be fatal; too much missing genetic information to form a viable offspring. But is it possible for chromosome pairs to merge? Maybe. If a chromosome pair had merged, what would it look like? All chromosome pairs have distinctive markers in them at the ends (called telomeres) and the center (called centromeres). If a chromosome pair had merged, then one of our human chromosomes would have an extra set of telomeres and an extra unused centromere in it. So if we study all of the human chromosomes, did we find one with extra centromere and telomeres that were not present on all of the other chromosomes? Is the prediction of evolutionary theory accurate?

Indeed it is, on human chromosome #2. It has both an extra set of inactive centromeres and telomeres, and the information encoded within is an almost identical match to that found in Chimpanzee chromosomes, but in them that information is split into two separate chromosome pairs.

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Evolution made a prediction, genetics verified it to be accurate. That's how science works. Testable predictions, verifiable evidence. You have presented neither for your woo-woo bullshit.

Bitch.

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14-11-2016, 03:07 AM
RE: Everybodies wrong.
(14-11-2016 02:48 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Just as much energy in the beginning reaction is just as much energy in the end result, so think of life being the end result loss of the substrate also.

What are you babbling about now? We've had non-native English speakers here for whom it is their third or fourth language who could cobble together a more coherent sentence than you.

You are an embarrassment to your species.

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14-11-2016, 03:13 AM
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(14-11-2016 02:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  http://www.icr.org/article/dna-study-con...mp-common/

The ICR does not do science.

They have a predetermined outcome (creationism) and they do nothing but shoehorn anything they think they can find into support that conclusion, rather than asking what conclusions can be drawn from the evidence at hand.

They are doing the exact opposite of science. Not that we'd expect you to know the difference, given your staggering lack of education.

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