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17-01-2016, 03:47 AM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(17-01-2016 03:29 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 03:24 AM)Thewonderer Wrote:  Yes but if you did not make it home from your walk I would not say that you died for any particular reason,


This particular - and primary - reason would be being born Wink.

(17-01-2016 03:24 AM)Thewonderer Wrote:  I am not saying we have control over everything, I am saying that I believe there is no master plan in which everything happens for a reason.

Words I prefer to look at life as a something we have control over ourselves weren't clear enough.

I also don't think that there is some master plan.
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17-01-2016, 03:50 AM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(17-01-2016 03:47 AM)Thewonderer Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 03:29 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  This particular - and primary - reason would be being born Wink.


Words I prefer to look at life as a something we have control over ourselves weren't clear enough.

I also don't think that there is some master plan.
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If you who know yourself the best say so then who I am to disagree Wink.

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17-01-2016, 03:58 AM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(17-01-2016 03:50 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 03:47 AM)Thewonderer Wrote:  Yes I'm not the brightest sparkUndecided

If you who know yourself the best say so then who I am to disagree Wink.

*then*Wink
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17-01-2016, 04:05 AM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(17-01-2016 03:58 AM)Thewonderer Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 03:50 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  If you who know yourself the best say so then who I am to disagree Wink.

*then*Wink

Then? English isn't my first language but then appears to be used correctly. Or is it unnecessary?

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17-01-2016, 04:09 AM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(17-01-2016 04:05 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 03:58 AM)Thewonderer Wrote:  *then*Wink

Then? English isn't my first language but then appears to be used correctly. Or is it unnecessary?

It's correct from what I can see.

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17-01-2016, 05:21 AM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(17-01-2016 04:09 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 04:05 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  Then? English isn't my first language but then appears to be used correctly. Or is it unnecessary?

It's correct from what I can see.

I was playing mind games.
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20-01-2016, 06:46 AM
Everything happens for a reason
Christians believe that when bad things happen to them even though they have been living by the law that it is a trail or test of their faith. When good things happen in their life the thanks goes only to God.
(Matthew 7:7)"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you". This verse from the book of Matthew tells them if they ask it will be given look and it will be shown to you and to knock and he will answer.
It is such simple mind control, and a mental illness if taken too far.
I was one of them once but after so much bad happens in one persons life their is a breaking point and you say to yourself, How did I get tricked into this?

I am a new atheist so I hope I can learn and I am pretty educated in the bible if you need any help with it.

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20-01-2016, 01:41 PM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(20-01-2016 06:46 AM)80sChild Wrote:  How did I get tricked into this?



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20-01-2016, 04:57 PM
Everything happens for a reason
(20-01-2016 01:41 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(20-01-2016 06:46 AM)80sChild Wrote:  How did I get tricked into this?



80z

A lifetime of emotional manipulation can be a bitch. Hug

Thanks! Back at ya!
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24-01-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: Everything happens for a reason
(16-01-2016 12:54 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  I think some do actually believe that god "has a plan" and therefore things happen for that reason. I feel most of it is lip service because they don't know what to say. It's asinine really. If god had a plan for rape, starvation and disease, then fuck him.

Yet this view is entirely congruent with the view held by some that we lack free will. Indeed in hindsight, it all could have turned out no other way than how it turned out.... right?

And if God is indeed all powerful, then it all must be part of his plan. Even rape, even starvation, even the most horrendous atrocities that have been perpetrated by humans.
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