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23-08-2015, 02:48 PM
Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 02:46 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 02:34 PM)cjlr Wrote:  While you may not technically be wrong to point out the ridiculous things your straw man said, I fail to see how it's relevant to any real discussion...

You fail to see a lot of things....

He's saying your still combatting the straw man version of my argument instead of what I actually have said, twit.

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23-08-2015, 02:49 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
For instance, you need to look at the substance of everything I said instead of interjecting your bias on a singular word "conclusion."

But your comprehension seems lacking, so that may not be possible for you to do

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23-08-2015, 02:54 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 04:14 AM)Matt Finney Wrote:  
(22-08-2015 09:08 PM)Chas Wrote:  Again it's either/or for you. Facepalm

One's conclusions can have any degree of certainty from a little to a lot.

That's fine. I'm happy to admit that my only real gripe here is the word choice. IMO it's a bit misleading and unnecessary, but on to other things....

Perhaps you can clarify your position a bit. In the quote below, do you think that is sound reasoning? Does the fact that we don't know of alien spacecraft existing give us proof that they don't exist? Do you agree with TBD?

(22-08-2015 07:29 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  " I don't have proof that alien spacecraft exist, therefore, this is proof that alien spacecraft don't exist."


That IS the conclusion reached.

No, I don't.

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23-08-2015, 02:57 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 02:45 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  I still contend that JTB is the best thing we have to describe what it means when someone says they "know" something. It's simple and it does the job.
It's not simple though and it doesn't do the job because it cannot be resolved.

(23-08-2015 02:45 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  If my reasoning is sound, and it's true, then I know it.
How do you know it is true?
How do you know that in the future it won't be proved to be incorrect and then we could say that you didn't know it. You only thought it.
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23-08-2015, 03:11 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 02:46 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 02:34 PM)cjlr Wrote:  While you may not technically be wrong to point out the ridiculous things your straw man said, I fail to see how it's relevant to any real discussion...

You fail to see a lot of things....

There are some things that are obviously lacking with your reasoning.

You don't seem to understand things in the way that most of us here do understand.

You don't seem to understand possibilities, and what they actually mean.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a positive claim and a possibility.

You don't seem to understand that for something to be possible it requires that either some physical evidence or demonstrable evidence needs to be available.

The rest of us know this. What is your problem, Matt?

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23-08-2015, 03:13 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 02:57 PM)Stevil Wrote:  How do you know that in the future it won't be proved to be incorrect and then we could say that you didn't know it. You only thought it.

And this reasoning is stupid on all levels.

We live in real-time, not the fucking future. If something is not possible today, we cannot speak to the future as if the future can somehow make it possible. We do not know if the future can reveal a possibility or not, so speaking to that end is a meaningless assertion.

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23-08-2015, 03:15 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 03:13 PM)Free Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 02:57 PM)Stevil Wrote:  How do you know that in the future it won't be proved to be incorrect and then we could say that you didn't know it. You only thought it.

And this ...
Sorry, I was talking to Matt
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23-08-2015, 03:18 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 03:15 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 03:13 PM)Free Wrote:  And this ...
Sorry, I was talking to Matt

Sorry, I was talking and teaching the lurkers how fucked up your reasoning actually is.

I wasn't talking to you either.

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23-08-2015, 03:21 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 03:18 PM)Free Wrote:  I wasn't talking to you either.
OK, well, let's just keep it that way.
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23-08-2015, 03:23 PM
RE: Evidence Of Absence.
(23-08-2015 03:21 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 03:18 PM)Free Wrote:  I wasn't talking to you either.
OK, well, let's just keep it that way.

Well why not? If I were you, I would avoid getting my ass kicked by me also.

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