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26-01-2017, 08:38 AM
Evidence against divine inspiration
Is there proof or at least evidence against the bible being the inspired word of god
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26-01-2017, 08:40 AM
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(26-01-2017 08:38 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is there proof or at least evidence against the bible being the inspired word of god

Is there a proof or at least evidence of something called god existence?

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26-01-2017, 08:42 AM
RE: Evidence against divine inspiration
(26-01-2017 08:38 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is there proof or at least evidence against the bible being the inspired word of god

Given that there's no evidence for any god, then it only follows that the answer is no.
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26-01-2017, 08:44 AM
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That's not enough I need actual evidence that the bible is not divinely inspired
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26-01-2017, 08:46 AM (This post was last modified: 26-01-2017 08:49 AM by unfogged.)
RE: Evidence against divine inspiration
(26-01-2017 08:38 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is there proof or at least evidence against the bible being the inspired word of god

Why would you start with the assumption that any book is true unless evidence exists that it isn't? The book is the claim and there needs to be supporting evidence before it can be believed, not the other way around.

As Aaron Ra likes to say, the claims fall into 2 categories: not evidently true and evidently not true. There is good reason, for example, to believe that virtually all of Genesis and Exodus is mythology. If a god inspired it then it was a god that likes fiction.

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26-01-2017, 08:47 AM
RE: Evidence against divine inspiration
(26-01-2017 08:44 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  That's not enough I need actual evidence that the bible is not divinely inspired

How it can be divinely inspired if there is no evidence at all for something called god existing?

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26-01-2017, 08:50 AM
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(26-01-2017 08:38 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is there proof or at least evidence against the bible being the inspired word of god

No, there is nothing in said bible to even remotely think it was inspired. ....... divinely or otherwise.

Am sure some one will link through to the very good videos on the developmental history of where and hoe the thing called "The bible" was cobbled and edited together.

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26-01-2017, 08:50 AM
RE: Evidence against divine inspiration
(26-01-2017 08:44 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  That's not enough I need actual evidence that the bible is not divinely inspired

You're trying to prove a negative. Can't be done.

Have a look through this thread, the openning post (yes, it's mine) starts like this:
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Before one uses the bible and scripture as an argument for the existence of God, the theist must prove the following:
1. That there is a God
2. That there is only one God
3. That this singular God is either the author of, or inspiration for, the bible
4. That God had a son named Jesus
5. That the stories, God's instructions and Jesus' teachings have been copied down, perfectly, by scribes some 2000 years ago
6. That those instructions have not been changed or modified in any form, through translation or copy errors, since their inception.

Only once each and every one of those proofs have been met, can the bible be used as an argument.

It seems to me that 1 through 5 cannot be proven, and we already know that the bible has been modified numerous times to fit certain political, social, cultural, economic and military aims throughout history.

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26-01-2017, 08:51 AM
RE: Evidence against divine inspiration
(26-01-2017 08:46 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 08:38 AM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is there proof or at least evidence against the bible being the inspired word of god

Why would you start with the assumption that any book is true unless evidence exists that it isn't? The book is the claim and there needs to be supporting evidence before it can be believed, not the other way around.

As Aaron Ra likes to say, the claims fall into 2 categories: not evidently true and evidently not true. There is good reason, for example, to believe that virtually all of Genesis and Exodus is mythology. If a god inspired it then it was a god that likes fiction.

And I need to know if divine inspiration is evidently not true
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26-01-2017, 08:51 AM
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Anything with a list of things "Thou shalt not" in it, seems to me to be far too negative as to be called "inspired".....

Sounds more like just something some sour old twat scribbled down.......

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