Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
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02-01-2015, 10:09 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
I knew a guy who was about to go out and fornicate, but then someone stopped him and told him they had a dream about him. They said they saw his face and to not do what he was going to do next weekend.

I went along with it, and then realized that this person was being an ass and was generally toxic to be around. I later realized that he had been planning on becoming a Catholic... for a while... out of the blue. That sure came out of nowhere.

So. I still don't know what to think of that whole thing. Met the guy online, so, meh.
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02-01-2015, 11:54 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(02-01-2015 09:54 PM)Vosur Wrote:  b̷̛͌̈͛̓̃́̍̈̈͗̿͌͛̑̇̓̾̐̓̎̋̄̏̀̅̿̆̓̃̎̎̊́̈̾̀͂̀̉̈́͛̏͑͐̓̈̆̾̋͒͌̏͛̈́̿̆̈͒̔̀̊̿̆̕͘̚͘͘̚̚̕͝͝͝͝͝͠​̧̢̛̩̖̪̞̰͎̰͓͕͖̜̻͔̖͕͙͉͎̤͔̦͚̭̬̬̮̟̦̱͉̭̖̟̜͔̣͉̦̼̳̜̤̺̰̠̣̞̙͙̰̳͙̏̈́͌͒̿̉̒̊̄͊̍͛̇̀̔̾̾̑̚̕͜͜͝ͅͅ​̧̧̡̼͖͎͈̗̣͎͙̺͈͉̩̦͖͔̮͔̻͎̲͕̭̣̬̹͓̩̻͓͍͙͕̗̯̪͎̰͜ͅr̸̛̈̓́͂̂̎́̾͑̆̄̋̾͌̽̿́͆͆͐͊̽̍̋̄͂̓́̉̎͐͌͊̓̚​̢̛̜̬̥͕̘̜͉̩̻̭͓̠͈̩̩̌̿̃̑͐̀̾̇̈́̀̽̋͊̈́̈̔̾̑́͋̅̈́̓̇̒̇̀̀́̒̄̀͆̈́͑̇͗̔͋̋́̉̀̆̾̇̈̀̀̏́̂̈͒̊͑̕̕͘͝͝͠͝​̨̨̢̨̧͍͕͈͍̗̫͓̟̳̳̖͔̞̼̤͖̝̞͕̲̳̗̯͎̥̯̼̤̘̤͓͔̟̹̗̹̳̬͕̦̹͚̘͈̞̺̣̳͓̠̣̩̤̜͎͙̗̩̱̩̫̦͙͙̩̲͖̦͖̹̝̲͜͜ͅ​͕̝̜͚ơ̷̈́̈́̐̏̄̆͑̐̊̌̾͗̈́̎̽̉͛̉̇̀́͂̀̑̎̓̆̎͋̏̋̓̈̊̓̐̔̃͆̽̊́̉́̊͂͗͗̐́͂̈͛̔̌̂́̓͗̊̀̅̌͌̐͘͘̕͝͠͠͝͠​̧̧̨̡̡̛̛̺̦̗͍̤͕͓͇̫̣̗͚̳̝̖͖̘͉̮̙̦̳̗̝̦̗͙̻̮̳̞̻͓͇̭̲̻̲̤͈̱̠̫̭̠̰̜̀̍̐̂̀͒͐̄͛̂́̔̑̀̐̈́̈́̇͆̓̈́͊̕͜͜͠​̡̧̧̢̢̯͉͇͓̪͎̖̻͈̫̞͓̗̖̯̖̰̩̺͚̗͔̟͎̖̤̫͔̜̹̝̳̩̰̯̪̹͓̲̞ͅ,̷̓̀̀̒̒̓̃̉̓͆̽͋̎̀̏͛̔̒̂̆̃͊̄̽̑͐̾̌̔͒͗̕​̡̘͚̼̫͙͍̜̜̪͙̮̑̄͊͐̐̀̑͐͑͐̓̎̽̇̎͌͑͆̈́̓̔̒̽͛̿̇̉̆̍̿͌̈̀̂̐́̀͛͌͋̀̍͆̇̏͑̂́͋̈́̇͒̅̐͂͗̊́̊͑͆̓̈́͘͘͠͠͝​̨̢̨̢̨̧͇̪̲̼̱̯̥͎̠̞̰͓͉̝͙̳̙̖̮̖̦͍̰̼̯̮̭̻͕͈̙̭̦͖̹̩̹͇̥̯͓͉̝̝̦̰͚͇̦̳̲͕̳͖͎͕͕̟̩̩̤̣̦̯̲͚̙̙̳͔͉͔͜͜​̢͍̫̭͖̦͕͚ ̴̛̛̛́̈́̅́̊̇͋̿́̎̇́̑̀̍̆̽͋̿͗̄͒͌̈́̍͐̇͌́͒̀̈́͗̊̋̉̔̒̂̈̃̔̆̏̔̃̉̋̐̈́͋̀͒̋̀̉̆̆̍́͗̈́̊́̽̐͗̄̐̔̕͝͠͝͠͠​̧̢̡̧̢̣͔̝̫̥̣͎̫̮̳̤͇̠̩̘̱̹̠̟̘̙͙͎̞̼̗̥͎̰̩̲̭̣̻̼̲̲͕͚͕̠͉̜̞͈͇̩͈̜̐̉̇̂̈́͂͗̈́̅̐͆̂̄̐͊̇̏͑̍̂͜͜͜͝ͅͅ​̡̨̢̨͙͈͓̹̲̩̬͈̠̹̖͇̗̗̠̬͉̲͖̹͍͔͕͕͕̤̰̹͕̥̠̣͚̼͖̻̤d̷̛̛͗̓͒͋̔̎͐͋̓̍̎͐̿͋̍͗͆͗̑̽̄̓̈́̒̍͋̓̍̋̕͘͝͝͝͝​̢̡̛͕̭̳̱̣̟̗̱̗̣̤̞͕̭͓͊̊̎̈̿̀͐́̑̔̑̀͑̆̌́̔͑̎̀͗̏̽͑͗̍̉̋̌̀̆͑̋̌̏́̒̋͆̾̇̇͐̾͆̔̀́́͛̀̽̌̓̆̚̕̚͝͠͠͠​̨̧̢̢̡̡̢̨̢̧̡̡̢̧͚͕͔̩͚̠̞̞̱̝̘͔̯̫̫͔͈͎̫͉͍͇̝̤̘̺̝̥͍̖̗̭̙̲̹͎͍̩̤̮̠̜̖͇̦̳̩͇̘̺̙̞̪̹͈̘͈̼̝̗̥̥̤͕͈͜​͓̪ͅơ̸̍̎̄͐̇̓̏͒̎̾̓̆͂̏̐́͒̇͊̔̂̀̓̓͛͗͐̄͋̉͌̃̀͑̋͂̉̏͒̉̈́̀͆̀̃̉̏̅́̑̏͗̈́͂̈̐̈̆̀͂͋̋͂̀̓́̑̒̅͘͘͝͠͠​̧̢̛̛̪̜̘̙͉͈̲̣̩̫̲̞̲̱͓̦͎͇̘̤̟̗͍̙̮̜̪̯̰̹̩̳̪̤̭̜͎̹͖̗̼̯̗̯͈͕̩̞̯͔̔̀͆͑͛͌͂̓̈́̆͋̈́́͊̅̓̆͊̋͛̄̕͜͝ͅͅ​̡̡̦̣̙̤̹̼̲̼̱͓͇̥̲͇̥̱̺͓̖̬̺̟͎͔̗̘̥̤͈͎͔̺͈̺̞̙̘̼̥͇̦̰ͅ ̴̛̛̈̒̓͑͋́̊͒̀̆́́̈́͑̅͋͋̿̿͗̓̑́̉̆̈́̍͋͐̆̽̊̿̈̅͒͛͋̐́͑͑̊̅͆̊̆̐̆̔̒͗̀̒̇̽͐̈́̽͗̄́͛̉̒́͑͑̚̚̚̕͠͝͠͝͠​̨̧̡̧̢͈̪̞̝̼͖̗̰͔͖̻͎̻̯̙̠̺̜̹͖̠̟̼̖̩̖̖͓̭͉̞̳͚̠̜̼͍̺̺̩͈͔͍̫̜̟̥̯̱̝͍̰̙̆͌̾́̊͒̌̊̒̿͌̃̂͐͐̆̑͋́̕͜͠​̧̧̧̫̥͙̤͍̗͎̣͙̣̯̘̦̲̳͇̱̲͕͈̮͙͕̪̞͓͎̬̣̦̭̥͖̤͚̞ͅͅy̸̛̓̔̍̉̄͂̄̄̽̄̈́̄̾̂̎̇͒̓́̆̈̄̽̀͗̾̋͆̊̀̋̚̕̚̚̚​̢̛̠̭̝͓̞͕͕̭͙̖͔̥͔͕̖͂̃̐̽̿̓̀͋͌̽̀́̍͛̆̇̽͋͌̓̏̂̔͋̈́͗̆͗̎̋̍͒̐͌̂͒͋̇͗̈̍̈́̓͊̽́͋͒̋͂͛̽͐̀̃̆̚̚̚͝͝͝ͅ​̡̡̡̨̨̡̺͕͉͚̟̼̙͔͙̠̠̘̙͉̖̪͎̲̗̩̺͕̳̤̫̞̗̖̭̰̯͉̘̤͔͔̥͕͕̼͍̺̪̝̠̟̦̯̺͍̯͈̩̲̜͓̻̯̞̬̦̻̗͔̞͎̞̜͎̗̜͚͜͜​̡̻͍ơ̴̛̈̄̆͊̑̒͊̄̌͑͒̂̏̀̑͌̀́̒̌̾̎̄̃̅̅͌̊͋͌͌̂́̑̃̋̑͆͊̇̊̂̎̽͑̅̀̉̈́͗̋̀̅̊̈͆̐̑̽̂̒̍̓̍̕̚̚̕͝͝͠͠͠​̡̡̧̨̡̼̙̮̬͈͉̠̟̞̝̮̮̬̹̖̜͕̗̬͙͖͚͇̻͖̜̩͍̫͕̙͎͈̹͈̘̹̮̝̣̦̰̯̣̥͚͔̳͒̌͆̈́̄̈́̈́̄̆͗̌̔͋̎͐̈́̍̏̓̈́̽͋͝͠͝ͅͅ​̧̢̢̡̫̗͖̪̜̜͈̹̰̦̭͚̲̥̜̳͔̥̺̦̻̯͕͚̪̜̙̺̖̪͖͈̟͉̫̙͚̠̻͚ͅu̶̐͆̾̒̊̂̏̋̅́͑̄́͆̄̌̔̓̋̈́̀̾͐̎͑́́̂͋̕͘̕͠​̡̨̧̨̫̘̞̖̗͖̫̙̈́̄̆̉͛̅͗͒͌͗̈́̅̈́̄̄̿̊͆̿̄̂͊́͐̎̅͊̃͊̉̈́͋͛̎́͑͆̊͌͐̇̈́̿͊̇͑͊̌̏̂̌͌̔̀̊̿̽̕͘̕̚͜͠͝͝͝͝͝​̨̢̢̢̨̧̨̢̢͍̤̰̻̞̹͕̪̜̻͈̜̦̹̙̲̪̦͇̝̞͖̯̠̣͕͍̯̤̹̻͕̠̩̥̬͓̯̳̯̖͕͇̺̳̱͉͉̼̖̳͕̜̬̙̞͎͍̱͇̤̻̫͕̝̙̻̺͜͜͜​̢̧̯̗̲̟̝ ̶̛̛̛̊̃̂̔͛̿͑̈́̀̂̀̐̿̎̀̃͛̅̊̀́̒́͗̍̽̑͐̏͋͂͊̓͊́̋̾̔̈́̈́̃̇̀͗̅̀̐͛͆̓̂̂̌̄̊̂̃͋͑͗̇̊̈́̉́̚͘̚̕͝͠͝͝͝͠͠​̧̨̢̢̢̨̨̢̛̲̪̫̬͍̲̤͍͔̮͔̤͙̖͕̺̤̙̥̱̱̦̦͈̦͙̜͉̲̫̯͓̣̪̱͔͔̱̩̱͍̮͙̼̞̦͎̱̀̽͗̋̇̿͋͛͆̎̆̈́̔͗͊̀́̿͘͜͠ͅͅ​̨̨̢̨̞̪͙̰̥̟͎̰̮̰̟͓̹͎̲̬̦͉̗͎̼̟̪̼̹͔̻͉͚͙̗͙̹̜͜͜͜ẽ̵̛̛̆̓́̾́̋̑̈́̀̓̑̾̔̈́̉̏̽̏͒̔̈̎̆̓̽̏̍͋̈́͑͠͝͠͠​̛̳̞̦̜͇̤̤͎̙͖͈̲̝̹̹̻͎̏̈́̐̐͌̓͛̌͋̇͆͐̀̅̒͛̂͗̈́̃̈́̓͋͛̀̂̈́̆͑͒̾̽͗́͛̅̽͐̅̒́̆͌͒̓͋́̓̿̌͗̈́̇̉͗̀̚͘͘͝͝͝​̢̨̡̡̡̧̡̲̜̤͉̺̹̮͎̯͈̹͍͇̩̪͚̼̞͎̦̹̦̳̟̘̩̩͇̹̻̝̦̭̥̫͎͓̬̥͇̲̘͎̦̯͎̝̗̹͎̣͓̤͇̜̞̥̥̠̱̪̥̻̙͇̱͓͓͜͜͜ͅͅ​̡̧̰v̵̛͗͛̍̃̐̊̂̏̊̉̀͒̀̀̀͊̀̊̃͗̿́̋̇̽̈́̾̅̊̍͆͗͒̑̍̓͗͗͗̽̄̇̊̏͑́̍̊̓̄̓́̅͑̎͑͌͐͐̀̍͑́̋͗̍͐́̕̕͘͘͝͠​̢̡̢̛̛̖͕͙͎̯̤̥͖̝̲̙̹̳̭̙̳͇̲͖̩̱̦̻̪̫̠̼̩̩̞̮̪̪̩̣̯̬̻̼̪͕̮̗̝͈̟̬̦̳̟͎͐̅͗̽̏̍̒͐̓͊̍̏̐̔̏̈́̈̿̒͂͘̕͠ͅ​̡̨̢̥̺̥̟͔̗̭̙͖̜̗̲̘̱͓̟̮͙͕̖͖̦͔̳̻̱̠̬̤̯͎̪̲̘̗̝͜͜ͅͅͅͅe̸̛͌̅̀̈̽̎̊͂̑͛̎̉̈́̃́͊̿́͛͂̈́͑̑͆͒̏̌̈́͘̚͝͝​̧̛̝̘͔͉̰̙̖̦̙̻̔̓̈́̀̈́͗̀̓̆͊͆̾͐͑̌̇͋̄̏͛̑͛̀̓͗̑͊͛̔͆̃̑̃͑̉̾̀͋́̽̈̌͆́́͑̿͒̽͆͂̋̓̾̀̏̚̚̚̚͘͘͜͝͝͝͝ͅ​̨̧̡̡̡̡̨̢̣͍̮̻̥̰̮̞͖̝̙̱̗͖̺̗̜̹̱̘̭̳̤̮̲̠̞̺̗̹͚̝̥̼͎̘̥̱͖̳̝͚͕̠̫̙̟̪͉̳͕͚͎̭̲͇̲̩̦͕̹̥̜̫̮̪̬̤̝̻͜͜​̭͈̗̘͚̜̼ň̸̛̛̛̛̆̑̆̆̒̀͂́̽̔̑̾͌̓́͛͛̃̈́̊̏͂͛̾̇̀̏̎̒͛͂͒͑̄̒̐̈́͊͗͆̐̋̋͂̆͐̿̽̈̇͒̆̇̈̅̊̍̾̕̚͝͝͠͝͝​̡̡̡̨̡̛̙̫̰̯̩̥͈͇̙̬̤͈̼̣̫͉̝̠̬̦̭̥̤͎̮̬̘̯͚̳̗̘̣̬͙̻̲̝̞̩̬̹̩̈́̑̈́̿͛̈́́̈́̾͋̄̃̆̂̏̿̂̐̋͑̀̋͗͒̚͜͜͝͝͝ͅ​̡̡̧̦̺̹̲̦̘͈͎͚͕̜̜̫̣̟̥̤̞̩̻̮̝̰͙̺͖̹̬̤͙͇̣̳͎̤͖̮̘̩͕̹̞̺̞͇͜ ̶̛̛̛̈́̋͛͋̊́̏͌̿̃̍͆̌̂͋͗̀͑̀̆̅͋͑̈́̋͒̏͋́̿̀̀͑͛̔̿̃̔̒͛̈̅͋̒͌̂̓̍̀̆̐̆͋͌͂̿̈́̿̀̔̑͑̈́̃̔͌̉̅͘͘̚̕̚͠͠͝​̧̧̨̛̥̟̺̰̭̳͙̼͕̦̯̱͔͇͍̯̦͙͎̠̝͓̞̳̮͔̟̜͎̖̞̩̭̹̜͍̣͖̹̹̯̗̬̜̗̥̹̣̱̝̺̜̳̪̗͚̆̽̄̈́̍̀̍͗̐͋̃͒̇͑̋͂̄̚̚͠​̡̨̢̥̺͍̹̞̘̩͕̺̼̱̤̹͉͔͇͎͍̥̖̠͖͖͕͔͇̻͎̜̥͉̯͍̞̲͜͜ͅŻ̷̛̛͊͆͑͌̂̆͗̃̋̉̃̒͌́͂̐̉̓͌̋͆͂̓̂͌͒͘̚͘̕͝͝͝͠​̨̛̛̛̛͇̝͖̖̱͕̹͓̩̤̯̥̳̮͍̠̔̏̌̍̑͑́̈́̂͗́̔̓̈́͆̂́͑͋̈́̎͛̆̀̿͐̎͑͗̃̌̂̀̋͑̒̉́̇̆̐̉̋̉̍̉̆̽̌̚̚̕̕̕̚̚͝͝͝​̧̧̢̧̧̨̧͎̘̬͈̹̯̟̩̝̭̹̤̜͈̠̦̖̤̮̩̲͍̘̺̪̭̩̩̻͍͓̩̤̗̪̮̳̺̟̦̖̟̹̰̳̯͕͇͕̘̹̮̖̟͔̘͕͔͔̯̮̻̘͔̝̱̮̺͇͜͜ͅͅ​̢̞͔à̷̛̛͐̎́͊̏̓͛̽͐͐͆̍̈̍̀̂̋̉́̋̏̽̋̐͛̀͒̉̎̎͒̎͐̓́͆͐̔͆͂͋̐͛̉̇̊̈͌̓̊̉̅͆̎͋̏̑̑̋͗̓͒̚̚͘͝͠͠͝͝͝͝​̧̡̧̡̡̡̢̢̡̨̛̝̩̩̲̼̫̼̞͙̥̤̰̻̠͈̟̭͈̜̘̺̤̰͉̮̻̠̫̝͇͙͇̪͖̜͕̫̹̠̞̳̗͂̈́̇̇̾̊̂͋̽̽̄̑̒̄̈́͒̇̐̒͂͌̽͆̕͜͜ͅ​̧̡̧̡̧͚̫̜͖̘͓͙̭̼̣̟̞̳̟̜̮͖̣̩̤̺͎̣̪̗̙͎̞͍̹̩͇̪̻̗̬͙͜͜ͅl̸̛̛̍̈͒̍̆͊̎͑̈̈́͆̂̊͒͂͒͐̊̀̑̓̃̎̈́̎̔͒̆̕͝͠​̡̧̛̠̙͇̳̭̥̮̗͕̰̬̊̓̽̄̃̏͊̋̈́̄̐̆̉͛̓̈́̊̑͊̑͊̿̈́̍͂̅͛̔̃̓̂̑͊͗̆͒̔̊̀͑̇́͗̓̾͋́̈́͑̌͂͒͒̒̋́̌͘͠͠͠͠͝͝͝͝​̨̢̢̧̨̡̺̮̪̞̼͔̪͓̠̤̙͖͓͓̹͇̖̯̦̰̤̮̦̖͚̘̱̲͚̻͍̼̱̫̺̼̗̼̦̱̜͍̳̤͚̪͉͇̯̞̜͖͔͙̻̹̥̣͚̭̘̫͉͎͈͈̭̟͇̗̖͜͜ͅ​̗̯̫͙̱͈̟g̸̛̛͊͊͛̋͊̀͋̄̇̍́͐̔̂̅̽͑̊͐͛͗͗͆̀͐̋̔̾͌̄́͛̆̋̂̾̊́̽̋͗̓̍̿̓̐̽͋̑̿͊̔̀̀͒͑̾̚̚͘͘͘͝͝͝͝͝͝͠​̨̢̦̜̫̞̭̺͙̪̞̭̺͓̜̮̖̤̬̞̖̫̠̤̘̣̺̪̦͓̙̬̪̣̤̘̗̞̟̮̟̣͖̙̣̼̝͉͛͆͆̓̅̉̀̐͂̍̔̆̐̀͂͋̿̅̅̀͌́̐̌̈̀͐̚̚͜͜͜​̡̨̧̢̢̧̡̝̪̖͈͖͓̯̥͙̳͚͍͕̝̬̟̰̱̘̟͍̣̮̯̥̰̗̗͇̣̣͓̟͇͖͔̦͍̹̞̠͉ơ̸͑̋̈́̄̒̀̍̆̊͂̅̓̇̅̅͌̓̎̈̋͐̓͐̀͗͠͠͠​̛̣̰̖͈̪̠̫̝̜͑̂̾̂̐̋̍̄̂́͊̋́̐̒̅̽̒̋́̽̆̆́̑́͗͐̄͋͗͌́̈́̒͒̍͐͗̈́̉̈́͋̈̔̀̒̽͛͌́̎̽̿̾̔͛̎̈̾́̚͘͘͝͠͠͝͝͝​̨̨̧̢̧̡͓̭̟̳͇͕̟̰̲̠̪̯̰̣̦͚̲̳͓̝̯̲̻̩̦̭̩̮̬̫͎͓̲̪̗̰͚̬̙̣̖̼̠̹̥̪͔͓͎̟̣̖̳̰̱͉̮̥̩̖̪͇͇̻̘̟̬̲̫̳̘̙͜͜​̧̨͉̻̘̩̜̳̭̤̥

















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03-01-2015, 12:16 AM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  Even if God does all of this that wouldn't be enough to satisfy; what about the person next to you that asks to align all of the stars or regrow all of the amputees' limbs?
It would satisfy the skeptics. There would be documented accounts of the sick people's records, documented accounts of the miraculous recoveries including regrowth of limbs. There would be signed and witnessed statements of eye witnesses. Many, many eye witness accounts.

What we have with the Bible today is accounts from people 40-200 years after the supposed event. No medical records, no birth certificates etc.

(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  You are missing the point; God is not here to entertain. On top of that; if God solves one problem or accepts one challenge why not all?
You are missing the point, the question is about "what would constitute evidence for god's existence?"
Thus far there is no evidence. Believers are asked to just have faith and believe what they are told. It all depends on you gets to them first (A catholic priest, a Mormon, A Hindu, a Muslim...), it's just random.

(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  Why would God serve the whims of man?
Exactly. Why would god create souls, why would god judge humans, why would god create a heaven... There is no point to it for a complete god that needs nothing.
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03-01-2015, 12:21 AM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  God is not here to entertain. On top of that; if God solves one problem or accepts one challenge why not all?

Just who in the fuck do you think you are spouting off what God is or is not here to do or not do ? Who the fuck disclosed to you His fucking "mysterious ways" ? Are you His god damn fucking High Priest ? Pope ? Prophet ?

You call curing a suffering child in agony "entertainment" ?

You are one seriously sick fuck.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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03-01-2015, 09:06 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(03-01-2015 12:21 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  God is not here to entertain. On top of that; if God solves one problem or accepts one challenge why not all?

Just who in the fuck do you think you are spouting off what God is or is not here to do or not do ? Who the fuck disclosed to you His fucking "mysterious ways" ? Are you His god damn fucking High Priest ? Pope ? Prophet ?

You call curing a suffering child in agony "entertainment" ?

You are one seriously sick fuck.

No one said curing a sick child is entertainment; an analogy was being drawn.

The point is; why stop at curing the suffering child? Why not cure every conceivable ailment of mankind ?
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03-01-2015, 09:11 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(03-01-2015 12:16 AM)Stevil Wrote:  
(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  Even if God does all of this that wouldn't be enough to satisfy; what about the person next to you that asks to align all of the stars or regrow all of the amputees' limbs?
It would satisfy the skeptics. There would be documented accounts of the sick people's records, documented accounts of the miraculous recoveries including regrowth of limbs. There would be signed and witnessed statements of eye witnesses. Many, many eye witness accounts.

What we have with the Bible today is accounts from people 40-200 years after the supposed event. No medical records, no birth certificates etc.

Google "Documented Miracles" and see what you find.
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03-01-2015, 09:15 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(03-01-2015 12:16 AM)Stevil Wrote:  
(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  Why would God serve the whims of man?
Exactly. Why would god create souls, why would god judge humans, why would god create a heaven... There is no point to it for a complete god that needs nothing.

I don't pretend to know what is in God's mind and why he created us. I just know He just did.

He loves us is not the same thing as saying He needs us.
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03-01-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(02-01-2015 09:42 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(02-01-2015 05:31 PM)fmudd Wrote:  ..... Why would God serve the whims of man?.....

This! This bit right here.

IF a deity exists and it does not care about we, it's creations, then why the flying fornication should we care about it?

Worry that it might sneeze or have a bad hair day and try and wipe us out, yes.

But to try and curry or even attract such a non caring being's attention?

MADNESS!

Again, I don't pretend to speak for God. However, what you said would be a fair statement if I felt that God didn't care about us.

What I said through implication was that God does't serve the whims of man.
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03-01-2015, 09:34 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(03-01-2015 09:06 PM)fmudd Wrote:  No one said curing a sick child is entertainment; an analogy was being drawn.

The point is; why stop at curing the suffering child? Why not cure every conceivable ailment of mankind ?

You did say precisely that. Now you try to weasel out of it. What analogy ? Apparently you have no clue what an analogy is.

And you destroy your own ridiculous position. Jebus said "If you ask ANYTHING in my name, it will be given you" Just like you, he lied. That is precisely the point. Why NOT cure every ailment ? Why not cure a tiny FEW aliments. Your god is an absent powerless god. As Bonhoeffer said "The God who is with us is the God who forsakes us".

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? (Epicurus)

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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03-01-2015, 09:49 PM
RE: Evidence which would constitute God's Existence ...
(03-01-2015 09:24 PM)fmudd Wrote:  Again, I don't pretend to speak for God.

That's fine, admirable and understandable.

(03-01-2015 09:24 PM)fmudd Wrote:  However, what you said would be a fair statement if I felt that God didn't care about us.

So... given things in the world and that said proposed god is the creator etc of everything within said reality how or where do you see said god actually caring?

(03-01-2015 09:24 PM)fmudd Wrote:  What I said through implication was that God doesn't serve the whims of man.

So... what then does said god do for humanity?

Much cheers to all.
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