Evolution in front of our eyes
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06-06-2012, 11:44 AM
Evolution in front of our eyes
Explain this, you creationist fuckheads!

Quote:White Americans' heads are getting bigger. That's according to research by forensic anthropologists at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...115828.htm

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06-06-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
(06-06-2012 11:44 AM)Scarlet Pimpernel Wrote:  Explain this, you creationist fuckheads!

Quote:White Americans' heads are getting bigger. That's according to research by forensic anthropologists at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...115828.htm

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06-06-2012, 12:00 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
It could be directly related to medical advancements, such as lower infant and mother mortality rates at birth. If an infant had too large of a head and the mother tried to give birth naturally, they would either both die or one would likely die (the mother if it was a c-section prior to our ability to sew them back up). So, our advancements in birthing may be contributing directly to selection for larger head sizes. Of course, nutrition also factors into that as well.

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06-06-2012, 01:08 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
Yeah, but where are the transitional fossils?

; )

Seriously, though. This is what drives me nuts about the creationist/intelligent-design crowd.

Even if they accept this latest bit of empirical evidence as an example of a biological life form changing over time, they'll still attempt to draw a line in the sand somewhere (e.g. this is only "micro evolution" or some other equally inane banter) while completely ignoring the fact that we arrive at this knowledge via application of the scientific method of inquiry; the same method that was used to arrive at all of the other knowledge we have about evolution and natural selection.

And what really amazes me is how so many people (even those that are not "devoutly" religious) still believe, in this day and age, that us humans are not just another animal species.

Thanks for sharing the link.

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06-06-2012, 01:12 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
Keep in mind that the average head size may have increased, but the average stupidity of the average individual has likely remained constant. We may have larger brains and better technology, but people now fill their brains with new age and paranormal crap instead of science.

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06-06-2012, 01:29 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
Just because there is variation within the species trending for larger heads is not evidence for evolution into a different species. Can the larger headed individuals still mate with and produce viable off-spring with the smaller headed individuals? I think so.

Hey I'm all for slapping down each and every creationist that exists but this won't further the argument. If they choose to ignore the fossil record and ring species, some bigger heads just aren't going to do it.
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06-06-2012, 01:56 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
(06-06-2012 01:29 PM)devilsadvoc8 Wrote:  Just because there is variation within the species trending for larger heads is not evidence for evolution into a different species. Can the larger headed individuals still mate with and produce viable off-spring with the smaller headed individuals? I think so.

Hey I'm all for slapping down each and every creationist that exists but this won't further the argument. If they choose to ignore the fossil record and ring species, some bigger heads just aren't going to do it.
It's a valid point (e.g. small-headed and big-head white folks can still procreate).

That said, this is still an example of how the scientific method can be applied to gather evidence and produce testable theories to explain how stuff works (in this case, how US white folk head size works).

It's the same exact method we use to gather the evidence we have to support evolutionary theory.

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06-06-2012, 02:20 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
But the brain is getting smaller.

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06-06-2012, 04:03 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
Welcome to 1988 -

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/30/scienc...all&src=pm

We've been tracking small changes in humans for quite a while now in relationship to the fossil record. Evolution is certainly slow, but not so slow that you can't see it happening in front of you if you care to take the measurements.
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06-06-2012, 05:33 PM
RE: Evolution in front of our eyes
(06-06-2012 01:29 PM)devilsadvoc8 Wrote:  Just because there is variation within the species trending for larger heads is not evidence for evolution into a different species. Can the larger headed individuals still mate with and produce viable off-spring with the smaller headed individuals? I think so.

Hey I'm all for slapping down each and every creationist that exists but this won't further the argument. If they choose to ignore the fossil record and ring species, some bigger heads just aren't going to do it.

Agreed. Evolution-deniers believe that evolution within a species happens, and they label it "adaptation". They say it's temporary and that it could go back (and will with time) because these same people tend to believe in essentialism.

Trust me, I've been down this road. Examples of evolution don't cut it. You have to get them to stop believing in quite a bit of stupid crap.

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