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21-01-2013, 04:05 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death...
(21-01-2013 02:40 PM)Luminon Wrote:  
(13-01-2013 09:24 PM)mawil1013 Wrote:  Hi, I'm new, I'm not atheist, at one time thought I was, currently, I'd define myself as a non active Baha'i.

I've have been postulating on an existence after mortal death on a level that is not spiritual. But as a natural state.

From reading layman's articles about particles which appear out of, thin air. Quantum mechanics, string theory, extra dimensions.

That some how our consciousness is linked to another dimension. Not by or through some imagined divine being but through the natural processes of the universe.

The particles which make up our physical bodies is some astounding matter at the quantum level and what happens at the quantum level does so apparently outside of time constraints.

Are they're atheists who feel the same, that they could be an existence after mortal death, completely unconnected to a supernatural being but as a natural act?
Even if you throw around the words like dimensions or quantum, you won't get wiser.

For me, the existence after the mortal death is obvious, because I can physically feel it. I can feel that besides the biologic body of cells and tissues there is another body, of something like plasma structured and fixated by electric/magnetic fields. It has lines and conduits of energy (electric energy, probably) and major vortexes of energy.

The answer is, that there are more kinds of matter than just the one we consider solid and visible. Dark matter is the best explanation on what I describe. (just after a lifelong permanent hallucination) There may be a set of degrees of matter, that form a set of corresponding bodies that permeate us like overreaching spheres. Which would mean multiple deaths ahead us. But death in this notion is not an end, it is merely a loss of one vehicle, loss of an access to the layer of matter that this vehicle represented, but gaining of a greater clarity of consciousness. One less intermediary between you and the hypothetical highest body, the hypothetical source of consciousness. One more layer of lampshade off the lamp.

It is of course my experience. It is important to realize, that science covers some reality, but reality does not end with science. Science is only the reality we manage to pin down and get under control through scientific method, but there is a plenty of reality out there that isn't under our control. It comes and goes as it pleases and is as relevant as anything. If only empirical knowledge was relevant, how would we prove that? Empirically? We can't. This is why we shouldn't shut down our observing and judging capabilities and wait till some people in laboratories tell us what to do.

I had a nice series of mystical and occult experiences in recent weeks, even looked them up later in the occult literature. Looks like I'm not the only one who went through such experiences. I'm sorry I can't join you guys yet in your materialistic worldview with just one type of matter. I suppose Chas won't be happy about this, but if something is my experience, I can't deny it and I can't leave others in ignorance who might experience something similar.
Yes, I am a pattern of matter and energy flowing through it, just in a little more broader and dynamic sense.
However, I can't join the believer crowd either, because they have nothing, no experience, no knowledge, just a few poorly understood words they borrowed from science.

Over the past few weeks I literally experienced some passages and sequences from this document:
http://anandgholap.net/Kundalini-GSA.htm
The serpent force or Kundalini is an extremely dangerous thing. I am not scared only because my experiences did not involve the lowest spinal center where it resides and also that the experience was totally unexpected and spontaneous. Non-spontaneous, artificial waking of Kundalini force is the shortest way to lifetime of a crippled nerve system or perhaps even death. My situation was rather some preliminary waking of one of the spinal channels and a couple of lower chakras, a sweeping of cobewebs so to speak. The actual Kundalini waking might not even come within my lifetime, which is certainly a reassuring thought.
Of course, this is no direct sign of afterlife. It is merely a perception of a piece of process that the literature claims it takes many lifetimes, incarnations to go through.


I see your woo senses are in fine form. Thumbsup

"I had a nice series of mystical and occult experiences in recent weeks, even looked them up later in the occult literature."

I'm trying to figure out what that means. Consider

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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 13-01-2013, 09:27 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 14-01-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 14-01-2013, 01:56 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 14-01-2013, 02:07 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 14-01-2013, 02:12 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 14-01-2013, 02:29 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 14-01-2013, 07:36 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 15-01-2013, 06:43 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 08:03 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 20-01-2013, 05:20 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 08:45 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 10:48 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 11:01 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 11:21 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 21-01-2013, 08:19 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 21-01-2013 04:05 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 21-01-2013, 05:25 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 22-01-2013, 01:50 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 22-01-2013, 01:39 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 22-01-2013, 08:27 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 24-01-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 24-01-2013, 02:05 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 07:58 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 09:35 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 12:26 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 04:10 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 27-01-2013, 12:15 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 22-01-2013, 05:43 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 23-01-2013, 07:40 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 23-01-2013, 06:13 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 26-01-2013, 04:20 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 27-01-2013, 09:45 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 27-01-2013, 04:25 PM
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