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06-02-2013, 07:01 PM (This post was last modified: 06-02-2013 07:07 PM by Luminon.)
RE: Existence after mortal death...
(06-02-2013 06:19 PM)Aspchizo Wrote:  Yet you assume what it is your experiencing is not only an aspect of your subjective reality. Even contrary to the evidence that we have stacked up that people are susceptible to hallucination and delusion.
It's certainly the most promising scenario. And so over the years I've tried to observe myself and my perception in any possible circumstance I've been through, if I get any objective, contrary, or neutral/ambiguous observations. I can guess your opinion on that, balderdash! Barnum effect, confirmatory bias.

But my guess is, you'd believe me at least one thing. My perception was completely unchanged when ingesting alcohol and tobacco. But when smoking cannabis, it became extremely ampiflied. The plasmatic substance I perceived before now became so solid to my perception, that I perceived it as a solid wall. And even slightest perturbations in its surface, normally soft and pliant, were felt sharp and painful as scraping against edges. If I alter my neurology through this drug, the phenomenon does not change, it only its perception is more intensive. Therefore I gave one more positive point to the idea that it is neither my voluntary fantasy, nor the product of my neurology. And stopped smoking cannabis.

(06-02-2013 06:19 PM)Aspchizo Wrote:  How I behave when I encounter a person with a work in progress is by helping them by pointing out the problems with their theory. This can either lead them to modifying the theory, creating a stronger argument for their theory (which hopefully leads to more rational reasons to believe it is true rather than getting shifty with works) or throwing the theory in the trash.
And what if you can't examine premises on which the theory is based? Do you then cut it off at the ground level with Occam's razor?
How can you offer any criticism to the point in such circumstances? You indeed might, if you assume my premises are as I report them. Under that condition you might indeed be helpful. Therefore it is in my greatest interest to be as truthful and precise with reporting my observations as possible. I could lie into my pocket any time, but then no advice I'd ever receive would be to the point. Can we trust each other for the greatest benefit, you that I don't exaggerate my observations, me that you don't reduce them ad absurdum?

(06-02-2013 06:19 PM)Aspchizo Wrote:  Saying this makes me question your understanding of physical, biological, and chemical science.
Yes, my understanding of sciences is quite questionable. I don't study them in any systematical way, I rather pick them along as I go. But I don't doubt these sciences, I merely join the crowd of those asserting that the electric energy has another subtler aspect to it, that underlies its known effects. They have however more to say than I do to this topic. I don't dispute anything biologic and chemical. I could post some websites, but it's been a time since I looked into it, since my high school graduation thesis (I have an electrician's, automatization high school diploma) and it's a big topic.

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RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 13-01-2013, 09:27 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 14-01-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 14-01-2013, 01:56 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 14-01-2013, 02:07 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 14-01-2013, 02:12 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 14-01-2013, 02:29 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 14-01-2013, 07:36 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 15-01-2013, 06:43 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 08:03 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Dom - 20-01-2013, 05:20 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 08:45 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 10:48 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 11:01 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 20-01-2013, 11:21 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 21-01-2013, 08:19 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 21-01-2013, 04:05 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 21-01-2013, 05:25 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 22-01-2013, 01:50 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 22-01-2013, 01:39 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 22-01-2013, 08:27 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 24-01-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 24-01-2013, 02:05 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 07:58 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 09:35 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 25-01-2013, 12:26 PM
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RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 27-01-2013, 12:15 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 22-01-2013, 05:43 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - Chas - 23-01-2013, 07:40 AM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 23-01-2013, 06:13 PM
RE: Existence after mortal death... - amyb - 26-01-2013, 04:20 AM
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