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22-03-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 02:50 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 02:26 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Nothing sacred about human life.

That's exactly the same mentality they have. Why would you want to act the same way they do?

wtf are you going on about???
Their opinion on life is that all that don't believe in Islam will burn in hell and need to be irradiated and that they're gonna go live with their pedophile prophet in heaven for killing infidels.

My opinion is that everyone is equal until their actions determine otherwise.
Just because you're born human doesn't mean you get to hide behind this ridiculous notion that you should be treated fairly just because you're human.

There's 6billion people on this planet. People live below the poverty line and starve to death, children starve to death, while others live in multi-million dollar palaces.
There's an obesity crisis in the west and starvation crisis in the east. There's a country hidden from the world that is likely a modern day death camp for its inhabitants that makes Nazi Germany look like Swedish socialism. We worry about what color shirt to wear, some people in Africa worry about walking 2 hours to collect water. We worry about the common cold, they worry about preventable diseases that cause blindness. We have to have the latest pair of Nike's, they have to sell their children to a factory that makes said Nike's.
There is absolutely nothing fucking sacred about life. Nothing.

Man is ridiculously cruel. The world is fucked up. So do not give me this life is precious shit. These people are killing innocent people because they are fanatical Islamic fucks who want their 72 virgins. They need to be squashed and ground into the dirt. They do not get to stand behind the bullshit that is "life is precious".

Go fuck yourself.

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22-03-2016, 04:44 PM (This post was last modified: 22-03-2016 04:49 PM by GenesisNemesis.)
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 04:30 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  So do not give me this life is precious shit.

Where did I say anything about that? I haven't mentioned at all whether I believe life is precious or not. I'm questioning your ethical stance. That's how you respond. Alright then. Congratulations on demonstrating that you respond to people questioning your opinion negatively.

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22-03-2016, 04:44 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 02:50 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 02:26 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Nothing sacred about human life.

That's exactly the same mentality they have. Why would you want to act the same way they do?

Nobody wants to act the same way they do but we do want to exterminate them before they kill other innocent people. I am certainly one of the most anti-war people I know but I like the idea of a few old Vietnam era F-4 Phantoms unloading several tons of Napalm[r] on ISIS people. They do not get to kill innocent people and walk away from it.
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22-03-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 04:44 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 04:30 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  So do not give me this life is precious shit.

Where did I say anything about that? I haven't mentioned at all whether I believe life is precious or not. I'm questioning your ethical stance. That's how you respond. Alright then.

Ethics?
Ok let me put this into an ethical context for you.

ISIS kill innocent people.
Killing innocent people is bad.
Killing innocent people makes you a murderer.
Killing ISIS stops them killing innocent people.
Thus, killing ISIS is morally good because you eliminate the negative moralness of innocent people being murdered and no negative moral is created in the process because ISIS are murderous fucks.

Is that ethical enough for you or do I need to spell it out further?

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22-03-2016, 05:13 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 04:50 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 04:44 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  Where did I say anything about that? I haven't mentioned at all whether I believe life is precious or not. I'm questioning your ethical stance. That's how you respond. Alright then.

Ethics?
Ok let me put this into an ethical context for you.

ISIS kill innocent people.
Killing innocent people is bad.
Killing innocent people makes you a murderer.
Killing ISIS stops them killing innocent people.
Thus, killing ISIS is morally good because you eliminate the negative moralness of innocent people being murdered and no negative moral is created in the process because ISIS are murderous fucks.

Is that ethical enough for you or do I need to spell it out further?

Anti-abortion people feel exactly the same about women and clinics. That thinking process is not necessarily ethical at all.

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22-03-2016, 05:17 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 05:13 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 04:50 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Ethics?
Ok let me put this into an ethical context for you.

ISIS kill innocent people.
Killing innocent people is bad.
Killing innocent people makes you a murderer.
Killing ISIS stops them killing innocent people.
Thus, killing ISIS is morally good because you eliminate the negative moralness of innocent people being murdered and no negative moral is created in the process because ISIS are murderous fucks.

Is that ethical enough for you or do I need to spell it out further?

Anti-abortion people feel exactly the same about women and clinics. That thinking process is not necessarily ethical at all.

Anti-abortion people are wrong and there is no going around that.

As for ISIS killing is short term solution. If situation there won't stabilize there always will be another group.

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22-03-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 05:17 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 05:13 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  Anti-abortion people feel exactly the same about women and clinics. That thinking process is not necessarily ethical at all.

Anti-abortion people are wrong and there is no going around that.

As for ISIS killing is short term solution. If situation there won't stabilize there always will be another group.

That's why you've gotta keep going to the bathroom every day, even though you know it's just gonna keep on coming forever. So you don't get backed up and constipated.

Sorry for my 3rd grade metaphors.

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22-03-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 05:17 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 05:13 PM)Heatheness Wrote:  Anti-abortion people feel exactly the same about women and clinics. That thinking process is not necessarily ethical at all.

Anti-abortion people are wrong and there is no going around that.

As for ISIS killing is short term solution. If situation there won't stabilize there always will be another group.

It's long-term for those killed. Drinking Beverage

Then we kill the next group. And the next. It is war.

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22-03-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
While I am a pacifist by nature and would always prefer a diplomatic solution, it is evident that this is impossible with ISIL.
And even if it was possible, we shouldn't.

What they are doing effectively rips them of humanity, thus human-rights, and no longer deserve any mercy or anything of that nature. I am of the observation that the only way to win against ISIL is to annihilate them to the last fighter, and then stabilize and revitalize the affected areas instead of leaving them in ruins for another group to take over.

The same goes for Boko haram, Al shabaab, Al quaida and all those others claiming to be on an 'holy war' to kill innocents. In this case, devastation seems to be the key to a new world, fearless and free from terrorism. But, this would require the joint will and allegiance of all the world's military superpowers, something their pitiful egos will never allow.

As for the infection in Europe. It's difficult. Really, really difficult. All the solutions I can come up with to remove ISIL from Europe are horrendously third-reichy. However.. it may be necessary, in the end.

I also wonder what they do with the suspected terrorists they captured during police raids. I do hope they realize they can never be allowed back into daylight again, though the EU is probably too spineless to give them life in prison or an electric chair.
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22-03-2016, 09:43 PM
RE: Explosions in Brussels
(22-03-2016 09:36 PM)LunarDiscord Wrote:  While I am a pacifist by nature and would always prefer a diplomatic solution, it is evident that this is impossible with ISIL.
And even if it was possible, we shouldn't.

What they are doing effectively rips them of humanity, thus human-rights, and no longer deserve any mercy or anything of that nature. I am of the observation that the only way to win against ISIL is to annihilate them to the last fighter, and then stabilize and revitalize the affected areas instead of leaving them in ruins for another group to take over.

The same goes for Boko haram, Al shabaab, Al quaida and all those others claiming to be on an 'holy war' to kill innocents. In this case, devastation seems to be the key to a new world, fearless and free from terrorism. But, this would require the joint will and allegiance of all the world's military superpowers, something their pitiful egos will never allow.

As for the infection in Europe. It's difficult. Really, really difficult. All the solutions I can come up with to remove ISIL from Europe are horrendously third-reichy. However.. it may be necessary, in the end.

I also wonder what they do with the suspected terrorists they captured during police raids. I do hope they realize they can never be allowed back into daylight again, though the EU is probably too spineless to give them life in prison or an electric chair.

For the record, fighting side by side with Russian or Chinese soldiers killing jihadists would be my wet dream come true. Again, sorry for the 3rd grade metaphors Tongue

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