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22-03-2016, 03:59 AM
Explosions in Brussels
Explosions hit Brussels airport, metro station; at least 13 killed

I wake up to these news right after a nightmare where I was being chased by Arabs who wanted to kill me, while trying to avoid explosions and suicide attacks around the city.

If they're trying to scare me, they've succeeded. However, being in Greece, I shouldn't worry too much. Afaik, there have been 0 Islam-related attacks in Greece. But it still scares me.

Which brings me to two questions:

One, are there indeed more terrorist attacks the last few months, or are they being broadcast more, given the refugee situation?

And two, what do the terrorists get out of this? For every suicide bombing, they even lose one of their own. What is it that people will do while scared that serves their agenda? Their attacks rarely kill many (if they manage to kill anyone at all), so it's definitely not an offense tactic. Are they seriously that deluded to think they can take over the world this way?

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22-03-2016, 04:41 AM
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(22-03-2016 03:59 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  Explosions hit Brussels airport, metro station; at least 13 killed

I wake up to these news right after a nightmare where I was being chased by Arabs who wanted to kill me, while trying to avoid explosions and suicide attacks around the city.

If they're trying to scare me, they've succeeded. However, being in Greece, I shouldn't worry too much. Afaik, there have been 0 Islam-related attacks in Greece. But it still scares me.

Which brings me to two questions:

One, are there indeed more terrorist attacks the last few months, or are they being broadcast more, given the refugee situation?

And two, what do the terrorists get out of this? For every suicide bombing, they even lose one of their own. What is it that people will do while scared that serves their agenda? Their attacks rarely kill many (if they manage to kill anyone at all), so it's definitely not an offense tactic. Are they seriously that deluded to think they can take over the world this way?

Kalimera.

It's so sad when people feel the need to kill for a religion that is supposed to be about peace and love.

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22-03-2016, 04:57 AM (This post was last modified: 22-03-2016 05:06 AM by Fatbaldhobbit.)
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Hope you feel better. Nightmares suck!

One: I think there has been an increase in attacks. I don't know if it is linked to the refugee crisis or not. In my non-expert opinion, I think it is linked to ISIS and the Syrian war.

Two: Again, non-expert, but I think they want to cause fear. They see fear as a means to accomplishing their goals. I also think that the religion is a tool, not a core.

The worst part is that the radicals are creating/recruiting radicals to do the actual bombing. Like when a tumor metastasizes and spreads.

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22-03-2016, 04:58 AM
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(22-03-2016 03:59 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  Which brings me to two questions:

One, are there indeed more terrorist attacks the last few months, or are they being broadcast more, given the refugee situation?

According to Global Terrorism Database number of attacks is growing from 2009 (4713 incidents) to 2014 (16 818 incidents) so I think that growing number of attacks is possibility.

But this is not either/or situation - both number of incidents and media coverage could be growing.

(22-03-2016 03:59 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  And two, what do the terrorists get out of this? For every suicide bombing, they even lose one of their own. What is it that people will do while scared that serves their agenda? Their attacks rarely kill many (if they manage to kill anyone at all), so it's definitely not an offense tactic. Are they seriously that deluded to think they can take over the world this way?

Here is some article on the subject.

In my opinion it's about cost reward ratio - suicide bombing is cheap and potential reward numbered in deaths of people deemed enemy could be worth it in mind of whoever plan attack.

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22-03-2016, 05:12 AM
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The West is good at planning war. It got rid of Saddam Hussein. It helped get rid of Colonel Gaddafi. Effectively, it destabilised the Middle East.

It's a great pity that the West is fuckin' useless at planning peace.

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22-03-2016, 06:00 AM
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(22-03-2016 04:57 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Hope you feel better. Nightmares suck!

One: I think there has been an increase in attacks. I don't know if it is linked to the refugee crisis or not. In my non-expert opinion, I think it is linked to ISIS and the Syrian war.

Two: Again, non-expert, but I think they want to cause fear. They see fear as a means to accomplishing their goals. I also think that the religion is a tool, not a core.

The worst part is that the radicals are creating/recruiting radicals to do the actual bombing. Like when a tumor metastasizes and spreads.

I do feel better now, thanks! Luckily, it wasn't one of those nightmares that stick with you all day long.
Well, obviously they do want to cause fear, but how does that help their cause? That's what I don't understand. Dying in a terrorist attack is still one of the most unlikely causes of death.

(22-03-2016 04:58 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  According to Global Terrorism Database number of attacks is growing from 2009 (4713 incidents) to 2014 (16 818 incidents) so I think that growing number of attacks is possibility.

But this is not either/or situation - both number of incidents and media coverage could be growing.

Thanks, that's some interesting data. I think what is also significant is where the attacks happen; in developed and/or Christian countries as opposed to attacks in developing/underdeveloped or Muslim countries. The latter are obviously less likely to appear on the news in developed countries.

(22-03-2016 04:58 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  Here is some article on the subject.

In my opinion it's about cost reward ratio - suicide bombing is cheap and potential reward numbered in deaths of people deemed enemy could be worth it in mind of whoever plan attack.

Interesting article. However, I still don't see how anyone in their right mind would think that Islam could ever take over the world in this way.

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22-03-2016, 06:03 AM
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They're getting desperate because they're getting ground down into the dirt like the worthless vile filth they are.
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22-03-2016, 06:08 AM
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I don't think it's about world domination. Well it might be for the brainwashed footsoldier but it seems more likely (to me) that it's about power locally.

Fighting the great evil of the Western world.
Getting the Western world to kill more local people to gather more power.
It's also likely to be the only way to, as a much smaller power, win a war against a great power. If the population of the Western world gets angry enough at it's own governments it could somewhat "destabilise" us and force us to quit.
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22-03-2016, 06:25 AM
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(22-03-2016 06:00 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  
(22-03-2016 04:57 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Hope you feel better. Nightmares suck!

One: I think there has been an increase in attacks. I don't know if it is linked to the refugee crisis or not. In my non-expert opinion, I think it is linked to ISIS and the Syrian war.

Two: Again, non-expert, but I think they want to cause fear. They see fear as a means to accomplishing their goals. I also think that the religion is a tool, not a core.

The worst part is that the radicals are creating/recruiting radicals to do the actual bombing. Like when a tumor metastasizes and spreads.

I do feel better now, thanks! Luckily, it wasn't one of those nightmares that stick with you all day long.
Well, obviously they do want to cause fear, but how does that help their cause? That's what I don't understand. Dying in a terrorist attack is still one of the most unlikely causes of death.

(22-03-2016 04:58 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  According to Global Terrorism Database number of attacks is growing from 2009 (4713 incidents) to 2014 (16 818 incidents) so I think that growing number of attacks is possibility.

But this is not either/or situation - both number of incidents and media coverage could be growing.

Thanks, that's some interesting data. I think what is also significant is where the attacks happen; in developed and/or Christian countries as opposed to attacks in developing/underdeveloped or Muslim countries. The latter are obviously less likely to appear on the news in developed countries.

(22-03-2016 04:58 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  Here is some article on the subject.

In my opinion it's about cost reward ratio - suicide bombing is cheap and potential reward numbered in deaths of people deemed enemy could be worth it in mind of whoever plan attack.

Interesting article. However, I still don't see how anyone in their right mind would think that Islam could ever take over the world in this way.

Islam is one of the fastest growing religions here in the UK - even allowing for immigration. At the same time, christardology is on the wane.

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22-03-2016, 06:34 AM
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Meh I can't see a solution any more that is not of Thrid Reich standards, which I detest the idea of. I'd rather have no solution.

It's Islam that annoys me on this subject, it's the people who repeat this, in effect. "don't say their religion isn't peaceful because you might radicalize them and they might kill you and it'll be your fault".

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