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02-08-2013, 07:45 PM
Faith Healing
So I'm currently debating this theist about faith healing/miricals. He brought up something that I really don't know what to say to it. Using this site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_Med...le_cases), he claims that there is documented evidence of the healing of incurable diseases. Thanks all sure that there's an explanation!

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02-08-2013, 08:02 PM
RE: Faith Healing
Does your friend know how many people visit Lourdes each year?

One of the notable cases had MS, which is known to go into long remissions, some that can last a lifetime.

Most are quite impossible to prove and cannot be verified independently.


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02-08-2013, 08:14 PM
RE: Faith Healing
(02-08-2013 07:45 PM)Derek Hammar Wrote:  So I'm currently debating this theist about faith healing/miricals. He brought up something that I really don't know what to say to it. Using this site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_Med...le_cases), he claims that there is documented evidence of the healing of incurable diseases. Thanks all sure that there's an explanation!

Why does god hate Amputees?

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02-08-2013, 08:19 PM
RE: Faith Healing
(02-08-2013 08:14 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(02-08-2013 07:45 PM)Derek Hammar Wrote:  So I'm currently debating this theist about faith healing/miricals. He brought up something that I really don't know what to say to it. Using this site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_Med...le_cases), he claims that there is documented evidence of the healing of incurable diseases. Thanks all sure that there's an explanation!

Why does god hate Amputees?

But loves people with broken bones that will heal naturally in 4-8 weeks on their own


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02-08-2013, 08:24 PM
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(02-08-2013 08:19 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(02-08-2013 08:14 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Why does god hate Amputees?

But loves people with broken bones that will heal naturally in 4-8 weeks on their own

But loves to torture people with osteoarthritis and autoimmune diseases. Thumbsup

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02-08-2013, 08:28 PM
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I'm talking specifically about incurable diseases though

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02-08-2013, 08:29 PM
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(02-08-2013 08:28 PM)Derek Hammar Wrote:  I'm talking specifically about incurable diseases though

So am I.

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02-08-2013, 08:32 PM
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(02-08-2013 08:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(02-08-2013 08:28 PM)Derek Hammar Wrote:  I'm talking specifically about incurable diseases though

So am I.

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Not really very helpful. How am I to refute this?

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02-08-2013, 08:34 PM
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Thanks to momsurroundedbyboys, I will use that about ms

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02-08-2013, 08:40 PM
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(02-08-2013 08:32 PM)Derek Hammar Wrote:  
(02-08-2013 08:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  So am I.

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Not really very helpful. How am I to refute this?

No one has been cured of osteoarthritis at Lourdes or anywhere.

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