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29-06-2013, 11:06 AM
Faith and Arrogance
Possessing Holy Spirit in the past equates to possessing Holy Spirit in the now. Nothing fuels the arrogance like being the living god. I leave that job to Gwyneth. Heart

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Another thing. Eternal is timelessness, forever is the sum of all time. Thumbsup

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29-06-2013, 11:50 AM (This post was last modified: 29-06-2013 12:04 PM by Ricochet180.)
RE: Faith and Arrogance
On a less philosophical note, I'd call this arrogance - it's been popping up on my facebook feed.
Quote:Me: God, can I ask You a question?

God: Sure

Me: Promise You won't get mad

God: I promise

Me: Why did You let so much stuff happen to me today?

God: What do u mean?

Me: Well, I woke up late

God: Yes

Me: My car took forever to start

God: Okay

Me: at lunch they made my sandwich wrong & I had to wait

God: Huummm

Me: On the way home, my phone went DEAD, just as I picked up a call

God: All right

Me: And on top of it all off, when I got home ~I just want to soak my feet in my new foot massager & relax. BUT it wouldn't work!!! Nothing went right today! Why did You do that?

God: Let me see, the death angel was at your bed this morning & I had to send one of My Angels to battle him for your life. I let you sleep through that

Me (humbled): OH

GOD: I didn't let your car start because there was a drunk driver on your route that would have hit you if you were on the road.

Me: (ashamed)

God: The first person who made your sandwich today was sick & I didn't want you to catch what they have, I knew you couldn't afford to miss work.

Me (embarrassed):Okay

God: Your phone went dead because the person that was calling was going to give false witness about what you said on that call, I didn't even let you talk to them so you would be covered.

Me (softly): I see God

God: Oh and that foot massager, it had a shortage that was going to throw out all of the power in your house tonight. I didn't think you wanted to be in the dark.

Me: I'm Sorry God

God: Don't be sorry, just learn to Trust Me.... in All things , the Good & the bad.

Me: I will trust You.

God: And don't doubt that My plan for your day is Always Better than your plan.

Me: I won't God. And let me just tell you God, Thank You for Everything today.

God: You're welcome child. It was just another day being your God and I Love looking after My Children...

Why is it arrogant? It's "The world revolves around ME!" of course. How else can you define arrogance?

We'll leave the "angel of death" thing aside at the moment, though the first response would be "Prove it." Your invisible buddy's invisible buddies held off an invisible bad guy? Mmm hmm. And death isn't evil in the first place. Why did they have to fight "him?" If it weren't for dying, there'd be no end to suffering, and we'd be hideously overpopulated with no end in sight... and buried under insects, animals, etc. that also didn't die.

Plus, God, you supposedly control the angel of death. I mean, you told him to not kill the Jews that had lamb's blood on their doors - or was he just allergic? - in Egypt, when you went to take out Pharoh's kid - and everyone else's - because he didn't agree with you. (By the way, that's very mob-boss like of you.) And he didn't agree because YOU "hardened his heart," and I don't think in context that means you upped his cholesterol levels. So if he was there to kill ME, it's because YOU wanted him to. But you had to send angels to fight him and make him not to? What's the deal with that? Is he taking your orders, or did you give him free will - which can only lead to you not actually having the power to enforce your plan, but we've been over that before. All this, of course, assumes death is a person - a very busy one.

The drunk driver. "I stopped your car so the drunk driver wouldn't hit you."

OK. What about the hundreds of other people on the road? Do they not deserve the same consideration? Why didn't Your High And Mightiness stop the *drunk driver's* car? Wouldn't that make more sense? And if he's supposed to kill someone, why not have your angels haul Mr. Death there over to whoever this OTHER person is and have them pass peacefully instead of terrified and possibly in lingering pain from a wreck? What could they possibly have done to deserve it?

While we're at it, how about a little trust in the senses you supposedly gave me - that I'd be able to stop. Or press the gas pedal. How about trust in your other people who designed and built the car, the seat belts, the air bags - are they all utterly incompetent?

The sandwich:

"OK. You stopped me from possibly getting a cold. But wouldn't that have helped my immune system the next time I faced that? And what about the millions of others who are dying of starvation right this moment, dying of sickness, of parasites, in pain? Not to mention those stuck in the middle of wars - Syria comes to mind right now - or falsely imprisoned, tortured, raped and the like? Why is my losing a day of work - for which I have sick time, by the way - more important?"

The phone call:

"And what if the person they'd lie to wouldn't believe them? Or would pick their story apart? Or, I don't know, ask ME about what they were told?"

The foot massager:

"God, we have these things called circuit breakers. Sure, it might trip the circuit. I have a flashlight, and it's not that hard to find, look to see which is tripped, and reset it."


I have the feeling god wouldn't like me....

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29-06-2013, 12:04 PM
RE: Faith and Arrogance
Quote:Me: God, can I ask You a question?

God: Sure

Me: Promise You won't get mad

God: I promise

Me: Why did You let so much stuff happen to me today?

God: Because I'm not real.

Reality defines environment; yet interaction requires action, requires time. Either god exists through prophets, or god does not exist. I'm comfortable in my gnosis.

(29-06-2013 11:50 AM)Ricochet180 Wrote:  I have the feeling god wouldn't like me....

From experience, it depends upon how much you like yourself. Undecided

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29-06-2013, 12:06 PM
RE: Faith and Arrogance
Heh. Yes, there is that. But if something insisted on having that conversation with me, I don't think it'd end with the "just trust me blindly!" "OK, that sounds great" at the end.

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29-06-2013, 12:10 PM
RE: Faith and Arrogance
(29-06-2013 12:06 PM)Ricochet180 Wrote:  Heh. Yes, there is that. But if something insisted on having that conversation with me, I don't think it'd end with the "just trust me blindly!" "OK, that sounds great" at the end.

Again, I can quote experience: God's like, "I may or may not have had something to do with your Gwynnie thing. Deny me, that too shall pass." But god, a.k.a. the LC, was never direction so much as warning from taking a direction.

Atheism is a warning from taking a direction. It is tao.

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