Fake News / Trump's Twitter / Free speech - rant time
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07-06-2017, 04:28 AM
Thumbs Down Fake News / Trump's Twitter / Free speech - rant time
So I feel like the whole fake news thing has not only been blown way out of proportion, but also it has been blown out of proportion specifically since Trump became president.
Maybe that was incidental but him crying "fake news" every time he dislikes what a media outlet says, blurs the lines between news and fake news dangerously.

Where are parents and schools teaching their kids critical thinking when reading things? Good for fake news sites who get the clicks and discussions and shares from people who believe everything they read.
I usually fact check things that sounds too odd or too good to be true or too hate-mongering etc. But sadly that is not the standard so why not keep crying "fake news"

Here is an article on what Fox (of all outlets) said to Trump about Fake news:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...ue-its-you

And the most idiotic part of it all is that other politicians are now jumping on board because it sells well to potential voters.
The demand that social media outlets should moderate fake news is ridiculous, unrealistic, and idiotic.
No social media outlet, including big ones like Facebook, have the resources to fact check every post that is made to insure that it is not fake news. And where will you draw that line anyway?
Can I, a private individual, happily lie about thing or will it be considered fake news. Can a legitimate news outlet put out opinionated articles? What if there was a misinformation without bad intention? Is that fake news? There are tons of these examples.
How about accounts dedicated to spread misinformation because they just want more likes and shared and clicks on their links.
The list is endless. It is not possible to filter out fake news because there is no clear line and because the content that enters moderation queues is too much and fake checking too time intense.
Brings me back to teaching critical thinking to people rather than demanding traditional and social media to do the thinking for the people.

So back to Trump's continuous whining.
Just because he is being critiqued or because not everybody agrees with the mental diarrhea he puts out every day, doesn't mean that all those opponents are "fake news" and all that diarrhea is not "alternative facts". Calling him out for his bullshit is ok.

Also people cannot demand freedom of speech, net neutrality, and moderation of "fake news" at the same time. These are mutually exclusive. Either you want free speech and you learn how to think critically and how to fact check, or you want it all moderated. But be sure that your free speech is gone at that point. People are already whining because some countries (Germany, France, Australia, India) have things that are illegal to say and demand social media outlets to block posts of that kind in their countries under threat of heavy fines. If you cry about that, wait for the "fake news" moderation. Have fun with that I guess.

K done

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07-06-2017, 06:13 AM (This post was last modified: 07-06-2017 07:42 AM by Heath_Tierney.)
RE: Fake News / Trump's Twitter / Free speech - rant time
I guess it really depends on your terminology.

Trump calls this "fake news": that a reporter said that Trump removed the bust of Martin Luther King Jr from toe Oval Office. Here's the report: http://www.poynter.org/2017/time-editor-...or/446501/

The reporter made an error, and has since apologized.

Trump calls that "fake news." It isn't. It's a mistake.

These are examples of real fake news:
Trump said Obama was born in Kenya. That's an outright lie.
Trump and/or his surrorgates suggested Hillary Clinton was suffering from Parkinson's Disease (or something). That's an outright lie.

If fact, Politifact has been tracking Trump's outright lies for some time now. Here's the page: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ Out of 410 statements that have been reviewed, 281 have been rated Mostly False, False or Pants On Fire. That's a lying rate of almost 70%.

Fake news is designed specifically to spread false claims in order to put a political opponent at a disadvantage. Trump and his people have been doing it since the start of his run-up to the Repub convention.

If he were a witness in a court of law, his testimony would be useless because he lies so much.

If he were an employee of mine, he'd be fired with cause before the second lie left his miserable mouth.

So to hear/read/watch Trump and his sheep complain (and their Russian overlords, but that's another story for another thread) about fake news shows how far they will go to try and distract from the fact that they can't keep the truth straight amongst themselves.
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07-06-2017, 06:35 AM
RE: Fake News / Trump's Twitter / Free speech - rant time
(07-06-2017 04:28 AM)Leerob Wrote:  So I feel like the whole fake news thing has not only been blown way out of proportion, but also it has been blown out of proportion specifically since Trump became president.

Maybe that was incidental but him crying "fake news" every time he dislikes what a media outlet says, blurs the lines between news and fake news dangerously.

When Trump talks about anything, he's addressing his base, not the people who know better. He does this because that's the way he won and will keep their support. He flatters their ignorance all the time while lying about the people who oppose them. Without them, he's nothing.
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07-06-2017, 06:39 AM
RE: Fake News / Trump's Twitter / Free speech - rant time
Trump and the Russians generated lots of fake news in order to swing the election. (This is proven now).

For a manipulator, it's always best to accuse your opponent of something before they accuse you of it. It becomes hard to accuse him of something he has been accusing you of all along.

He has been trying to gaslight (confuse) the people for years (see the birther movement). It's a part of his personality disorder. It's typical of malignant narcissists.

It's working, people don't know what's real and what's fake anymore.

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