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13-09-2012, 09:47 AM
RE: Fate vs free will
I don't find omniscience and free will to be incompatible. There is a difference between a god knowing what choices you will make before you make them and the god actually making those choices for you. Remember an omnipotent being can do anything so that would include literally seeing into the future. That doesn't mean you would be making your own choices any less freely. It simply means that god would know beforehand what choices you will decide to make.

Another way to think about it is from the perspective that time has no beginning or end and it's not necessarily linear even though we commonly think of it that way. Let's say, for the sake of discussion, it's more like a circle and we are currently at the "top" of the circle. All a god would have to do is move his viewing to another part of the circle, say the "bottom", to see what is going on there (i.e., the future). He wouldn't have had to do anything to affect what occurred in the time period between the top and bottom of the circle, but he could know the outcomes at that point and therefore be able to discern all the free choices that would have to have occurred to arrive at those outcomes. That would be an impossible task for you and I, but a piece of cake for an omnipotent being.

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Fate vs free will - Muckyoo - 12-09-2012, 09:47 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - earmuffs - 13-09-2012, 06:29 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Bucky Ball - 13-09-2012, 06:39 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - nach_in - 13-09-2012, 07:02 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:23 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 13-09-2012, 11:31 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:34 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 13-09-2012, 11:35 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 13-09-2012 09:47 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - godistwaddle - 13-09-2012, 09:52 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 13-09-2012, 10:09 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:33 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 09:15 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 14-09-2012, 09:25 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 12:07 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 13-09-2012, 10:13 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Cardinal Smurf - 13-09-2012, 05:46 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 06:47 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Aseptic Skeptic - 14-09-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 12:04 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chas - 14-09-2012, 12:14 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Vosur - 14-09-2012, 12:23 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 12:33 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 12:35 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 01:34 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chas - 14-09-2012, 01:38 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 02:24 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 03:11 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 04:09 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chas - 14-09-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Vosur - 14-09-2012, 11:55 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - fstratzero - 14-09-2012, 02:37 PM
Fate vs free will - Cardinal Smurf - 14-09-2012, 03:09 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Xerox - 02-11-2012, 07:10 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Theist_Typing - 03-11-2012, 12:34 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Bucky Ball - 03-11-2012, 12:51 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Theist_Typing - 05-11-2012, 06:10 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 05-11-2012, 06:12 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - DLJ - 03-11-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Theist_Typing - 05-11-2012, 06:06 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - DLJ - 05-11-2012, 07:52 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Bucky Ball - 05-11-2012, 06:20 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Free - 04-11-2012, 03:25 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 05-11-2012, 08:33 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - a_theist - 19-01-2013, 12:58 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Aseptic Skeptic - 19-01-2013, 03:27 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 21-01-2013, 12:07 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Baud2Bits - 21-01-2013, 08:02 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chaos - 19-01-2013, 06:15 PM
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