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14-09-2012, 12:04 PM
RE: Fate vs free will
(14-09-2012 10:58 AM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  nobody has free will at all, even without god concepts.

I tend to agree with this.

The more we learn about brain functions, the clearer it becomes that our "free will" is extremely limited if not non-existant.

Our particular chemical composition plus a hodgepodge of conscious and non - conscious (I don't want to say subconscious since that has all sorts of other connotations) sorting mechanisms presents us with a refined couple of options we can choose to base a decision on.

We are not all that far away from being able to alter some of the processes happening in a particular brain. Eventually you will be able to go to the doc for something that could be called "cosmetic surgery for the brain". Then you can make yourself more outgoing, more of a risk taker, less of a risk taker and and and and.....

That will of course totally change your decision making process.

Which is not all that much under your control in the first place.

So, the "free will under god" discussion is totally outside of any possible reality. We have very little free will to start with. You could argue that "cosmetic surgery for the brain" will actually create free will for the first time, as your brain will then be using the factors you would like it to use in order to make decisions.

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Fate vs free will - Muckyoo - 12-09-2012, 09:47 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - earmuffs - 13-09-2012, 06:29 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Bucky Ball - 13-09-2012, 06:39 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - nach_in - 13-09-2012, 07:02 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:23 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 13-09-2012, 11:31 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:34 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 13-09-2012, 11:35 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 13-09-2012, 09:47 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - godistwaddle - 13-09-2012, 09:52 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 13-09-2012, 10:09 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 11:33 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 09:15 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 14-09-2012, 09:25 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 12:07 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 13-09-2012, 10:13 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Cardinal Smurf - 13-09-2012, 05:46 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 13-09-2012, 06:47 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Aseptic Skeptic - 14-09-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012 12:04 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chas - 14-09-2012, 12:14 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Vosur - 14-09-2012, 12:23 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 12:33 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 12:35 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 01:34 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chas - 14-09-2012, 01:38 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 02:24 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Impulse - 14-09-2012, 03:11 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Dom - 14-09-2012, 04:09 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chas - 14-09-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Vosur - 14-09-2012, 11:55 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - fstratzero - 14-09-2012, 02:37 PM
Fate vs free will - Cardinal Smurf - 14-09-2012, 03:09 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Xerox - 02-11-2012, 07:10 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Theist_Typing - 03-11-2012, 12:34 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Bucky Ball - 03-11-2012, 12:51 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Theist_Typing - 05-11-2012, 06:10 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 05-11-2012, 06:12 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - DLJ - 03-11-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Theist_Typing - 05-11-2012, 06:06 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - DLJ - 05-11-2012, 07:52 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Bucky Ball - 05-11-2012, 06:20 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Free - 04-11-2012, 03:25 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - houseofcantor - 05-11-2012, 08:33 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - a_theist - 19-01-2013, 12:58 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - Aseptic Skeptic - 19-01-2013, 03:27 AM
RE: Fate vs free will - kingschosen - 21-01-2013, 12:07 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Baud2Bits - 21-01-2013, 08:02 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - Chaos - 19-01-2013, 06:15 PM
RE: Fate vs free will - chandlerklebs - 15-11-2014, 06:52 AM
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