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07-08-2014, 04:39 PM
RE: Feminists now hijacking atheism? WTF?
A fair society is a society that is fair to everyone else as well as yourself.
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07-08-2014, 04:41 PM
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(07-08-2014 03:59 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  You don't like feminism (I prefer to call it gender equality), or you don't like those whack-o's giving feminism a bad name?

I'm not sure how you can separate the two. Equal respect and equal pay is fine, as long as the work performed is indeed truly 'equal'. Fundamentally though, there's no such thing as gender equality because the genders are inherently different. Is a potato equal to a carrot? The term 'gender equality' has been foisted upon us. Question it and you're a bigot. The last thing feminists want is equality. They want preferencial socio-political privilege and status.
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07-08-2014, 04:45 PM
RE: Feminists now hijacking atheism? WTF?
(07-08-2014 04:41 PM)Antitheist007 Wrote:  
(07-08-2014 03:59 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  You don't like feminism (I prefer to call it gender equality), or you don't like those whack-o's giving feminism a bad name?

I'm not sure how you can separate the two. Equal respect and equal pay is fine, as long as the work performed is indeed truly 'equal'. Fundamentally though, there's no such thing as gender equality because the genders are inherently different. Is a potato equal to a carrot? The term 'gender equality' has been foisted upon us. Question it and you're a bigot. The last thing feminists want is equality. They want preferencial socio-political privilege and status.

No, but a male human and a female human are still both humans. No, not preferential privileges and statuses, equal.

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07-08-2014, 04:49 PM
RE: Feminists now hijacking atheism? WTF?
(07-08-2014 04:41 PM)Antitheist007 Wrote:  The last thing feminists want is equality. They want preferencial socio-political privilege and status.

Citation required.
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07-08-2014, 04:50 PM
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(07-08-2014 04:45 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  No, not preferential privileges and statuses, equal.

Equal? As in preferential child custody rights for women? Special anti-violence measures for women only? Affirmative action for women? Alimony?

The feminist movement is openly and actively hostile toward men.
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07-08-2014, 04:52 PM
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(07-08-2014 04:50 PM)Antitheist007 Wrote:  The feminist movement is openly and actively hostile toward men.

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07-08-2014, 04:54 PM
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(07-08-2014 04:50 PM)Antitheist007 Wrote:  
(07-08-2014 04:45 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  No, not preferential privileges and statuses, equal.

Equal? As in preferential child custody rights for women? Special anti-violence measures for women only? Affirmative action for women? Alimony?

The feminist movement is openly and actively hostile toward men.

Gunna agree with Mathilda here, we need citations (or even at minimum more elaboration) for these claims.

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07-08-2014, 04:57 PM
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Antitheist007 I want to strongly discourage you from what seems to be your inevitabile course of action.

Feminism is not "over". There is plenty of inequality to be had in the US. The difference is most battles are no longer over legal issues because, as far as the law is concerned, it is almost entirely equal, but over cultural issues. When you said that comparing men to woman was like comparing potatoes to carrots, it was an excellent example of some of the cultural problems that still persist in the US and the west.
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07-08-2014, 04:57 PM
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Before this goes over the deep end I'm going to say again. Feminism is about gender equality. I don't think women are any better than men, and I don't think men are any better than women.

You're confusing feminism with the radicals out there who actually do hate men, and they are giving feminism a bad name. It's easy to understand why you're confused on this point. The radicals are very loud.

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07-08-2014, 05:05 PM
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(07-08-2014 04:54 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  Gunna agree with Mathilda here, we need citations (or even at minimum more elaboration) for these claims.

OK - women don't almost exclusively get child custody, get half the house, the car, child support and alimony. There's no hostility at all toward men in our society - which is why you so often hear "women and minorities". Funny thing about that is 'women and minorities' happens to be, well,.. everyone! - ..except white males.
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