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25-05-2012, 04:17 PM
Finding the right graphics card?
My PC has some issues running most shaders, so I've decided to go ahead and purchase a new graphics card. I know how to install it, and I have some spare cash, but I'm not sure what graphics card to buy. I believe I currently have integrated graphics due to being inable to locate my graphics card inside the PC. My price range is about 50-125$. I was thinking about:

http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Detail/Graphi...670-MD1GD5


or

http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Detail/Graphi...eon%206450


But I'm unsure as to whether or not these graphics cards will serve my gaming purposes.

I'm currently using AMD 3000 graphics(Never gives a model name in my PC)

Processor: AMD Athlon™ II X2 220 Processor 2.80 GHz

RAM: 12.0 GB (11.7 usable)

64-bit operating system, yet my dxdiag says my display's in 32-bit mode.

I'm using the ATI Catalyst 12.3 graphics driver(12.4 is broken to hell)

Anyone know if those two graphics cards will serve my purposes, or if not, which one I should buy? I'm hoping to get an AMD graphics card as opposed to Nvidias
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25-05-2012, 04:48 PM
RE: Finding the right graphics card?
Those two graphics cards are virtually the same, except that the more expensive one is slightly faster. So I guess the question is whether you're prepared to spend more for marginally-to-moderately better performance.

Unfortunately graphics cards are expensive, generally the least future safe part of your computer, while also being the component with the most impact on your visual experience in games.

Staying within the price range I would say go for either:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/g...-7750.aspx

Or if you can find one under $125 (they're around $135):
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/g...-7770.aspx
It should make a small, but noticeable difference from the HD 7750

Shopping for graphic cards for us gamers really is a sad case of affairs.

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25-05-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: Finding the right graphics card?
(25-05-2012 04:48 PM)Pelvin Wrote:  Those two graphics cards are virtually the same, except that the more expensive one is slightly faster. So I guess the question is whether you're prepared to spend more for marginally-to-moderately better performance.

Unfortunately graphics cards are expensive, generally the least future safe part of your computer, while also being the component with the most impact on your visual experience in games.

Staying within the price range I would say go for either:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/g...-7750.aspx

Or if you can find one under $125 (they're around $135):
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/g...-7770.aspx
It should make a small, but noticeable difference from the HD 7750

Shopping for graphic cards for us gamers really is a sad case of affairs.
Well, I guess I'll give one of those a go and see if it improves my performance.
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25-05-2012, 09:00 PM
RE: Finding the right graphics card?
Just a question, did the 12g RAM come with the PC or did you put in additional RAM?

Because 12G RAM is pretty overkill, like everyone says put in as much RAM as possible, it'll make your computer faster is a bit of a myth. It is very much the more you have the less the difference. If you want speed, invest in a new processor.

Overall though it is down to the combination of components. If one part sucks, it all sucks.

As for the graphics card, I'd say go with the cheap one. But I'm really thrifty.
6450 is still a good graphics card.

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28-05-2012, 04:31 AM
RE: Finding the right graphics card?
Who said that 6670 and 6450 are basically the same card? Don't let me catch you again...

6670 is 2 classes higher than 6450. Where did you ever get the idea that a 64xx processor is the same, or even close to the 66xx processor? You can see by the picture of the cards how different they are, you don't even need any numbers.

http://www.hwcompare.com/10676/radeon-hd...-6670-oem/


6670, don't go cheaper, if you think of buying something worth mentioning.

Of course, 7770 and 7750 are newer, but basically the same. 77xx and 67xx use the same processor, just newer firmware. So if the price is little different, it better to get the newer one, but if there is a price difference, I would go for a year older one.

As for the RAM, anything over 4 GB is used by some extra demanding graphic processing applications, or it is not used at all. No game in the world needs or will show you any difference between 4 and 8 GB, so anything over 4 is an overkill, but it is future-proof, so not bad for the future investment. But, how is your 12 GB organized? You need to have it divided into same cards/slots if you want your computer to use dual-channel, or if it is new enough, triple/quad-channel speed transfer. Not enough info, so I can't tell you exactly.

As for the drivers, always use the last one, obtained from the OFFICIAL web page.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
or
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx



But all this and much much more can be asked/found here:

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...lox?page=9

P.S.

Your processor is at his end, concerning new requirements that modern
games require. I hope you have DDR3, not DDR2 on your computer, because
the next thing to change is processor and it will take the motherboard
with it.

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31-05-2012, 02:00 PM
RE: Finding the right graphics card?
(25-05-2012 09:00 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Just a question, did the 12g RAM come with the PC or did you put in additional RAM?

Because 12G RAM is pretty overkill, like everyone says put in as much RAM as possible, it'll make your computer faster is a bit of a myth. It is very much the more you have the less the difference. If you want speed, invest in a new processor.

Overall though it is down to the combination of components. If one part sucks, it all sucks.

As for the graphics card, I'd say go with the cheap one. But I'm really thrifty.
6450 is still a good graphics card.
It was given to me as a gift. I was complaining that my PC was running so slowly.....Now it's running a great deal faster. Though I do agree that 12 GB is overkill. My PC doesn't even use very much of it. 2 Gigabytes at the most.
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01-06-2012, 04:03 AM
RE: Finding the right graphics card?
Ah, yes, but maybe it can run faster if you don't have dual-channel enabled now. You would need to tell me how many slots do you use, or how many pieces of RAM you have in that 12 GB and how are they organized. By 2GB, 4 GB, 1 GB, combinations? And then tell me the model of your motherboard, so I will know what it uses DDR2, 3, dual, triple or quadruple channel. Then maybe I can correct something and speed you up even more. Or maybe not. But I still need more info.

And what about the graphic card? Any decisions or shopping? I like to have a feedback...

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