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10-08-2015, 06:58 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 06:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 06:45 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, this what God does teach in the BoM.
Share what is YOURS.

I do. Does it really matter how it became mine.
I have no doubt that you do. It is matter how it became yours.
I think I know what you are going to say next. Let's see.
P.S. When you gain wealth it has to be done without breaking laws of the land.

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10-08-2015, 07:00 PM
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(10-08-2015 06:55 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 06:52 PM)Cosmic Discourse Wrote:  Though you may be giving from a place of kindness, the fact remains that when you sit down for your mandatory annual tithing settlement with your local bishop, it's expected that you are a full tithe payer (at least 10% of your increase/income) to remain temple worthy. That in and of itself is the implied obligation.
Yes, but
1) it was my own choice to give 10%. When I was baptized I told God that this is what I agree to do with all my heart.
2) I can choose not to it.
Radical idea of sharing takes away from me first and second.
Your first point is correct, it is a choice. Your second point holds no weight with me, because if you chose not to do it then the 'blessings' of the temple are withheld from you, circling right back around to obligation (spiritually, socially, financially).
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10-08-2015, 07:06 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 06:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  P.S. When you gain wealth it has to be done without breaking laws of the land.

Which land? Which laws?

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10-08-2015, 07:49 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 07:00 PM)Cosmic Discourse Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 06:55 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, but
1) it was my own choice to give 10%. When I was baptized I told God that this is what I agree to do with all my heart.
2) I can choose not to it.
Radical idea of sharing takes away from me first and second.
Your first point is correct, it is a choice. Your second point holds no weight with me, because if you chose not to do it then the 'blessings' of the temple are withheld from you, circling right back around to obligation (spiritually, socially, financially).
I agreed( it was my choice) : if I break my promise I have no more promise of God"
Covenant is contract between man and God. I promise something God promises something in return.
When I break conditions of contract there is no more promise.
God did not force me in contract. It was my own choice.

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10-08-2015, 07:52 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 07:06 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 06:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  P.S. When you gain wealth it has to be done without breaking laws of the land.

Which land? Which laws?
Land where you live. Laws of the land where you live.
When you make money by breaking laws you gain your wealth in wrong way.

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10-08-2015, 08:24 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 07:49 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 07:00 PM)Cosmic Discourse Wrote:  Your first point is correct, it is a choice. Your second point holds no weight with me, because if you chose not to do it then the 'blessings' of the temple are withheld from you, circling right back around to obligation (spiritually, socially, financially).
I agreed( it was my choice) : if I break my promise I have no more promise of God"
Covenant is contract between man and God. I promise something God promises something in return.
When I break conditions of contract there is no more promise.
God did not force me in contract. It was my own choice.
We're now discussing two separate issues; while your focus is on choice, mine is on the implied obligation. Let's take an example outside of the current discussion (hypothetical):

If you were to cohabitate prior to marriage, it's generally frowned upon in many faiths (yours included). If your bishop were to find out about the circumstances, he's obligated to suspend your privilege to partake of the weekly sacrament, for as long as he deems necessary. If you don't want to follow this rule, but also don't want to stand out, you would again be faced with the social obligation to conform.

As I'm not trying to continue derailing this thread from its original intention, this will be the last correspondence discussing the matter. Reasoning with the unreasonable is a fruitless endeavor.
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10-08-2015, 08:26 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 06:45 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, this what God does teach in the BoM.
Share what is YOURS.
Progressives share what is NOT theirs. Hillary will never sell her mansions. She wants to sell another rich guy mansion and share with those poor little people so they can give her more power. So she can have even more mansions.

Citation needed.

There are no "politicians exempt" clauses in the tax code.

(10-08-2015 06:45 PM)Alla Wrote:  Hillary gets thousands of $$ for her 20 min speech. I would give those money to the poor students.
Is this even fair?

Is it fair that athletes and movie stars are richer than me? She couldn't ask for such high speaking fees if there weren't people who think her presence is worth that much to them.

There are so, so many better targets out there.

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10-08-2015, 08:47 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 07:52 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 07:06 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Which land? Which laws?
Land where you live. Laws of the land where you live.
When you make money by breaking laws you gain your wealth in wrong way.

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10-08-2015, 09:08 PM
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(09-08-2015 11:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 10:39 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Because nothing is for free.

But we can make things more affordable for those in need.
Good and noble idea.
But do not tell me that Obama is like Jesus who gives something free.

Oh, you mean the free gift that if you refuse it lands you in Hell for eternity?

That free gift? Consider

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10-08-2015, 09:31 PM
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(10-08-2015 09:08 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  Good and noble idea.
But do not tell me that Obama is like Jesus who gives something free.

Oh, you mean the free gift that if you refuse it lands you in Hell for eternity?

That free gift? Consider

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