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18-08-2015, 05:53 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
1)"world’s happiest country”.
for how long?

2) USA is my favorite country. All those who hate to live in the USA can go. Bye-Bye. Adios. Do svidania.
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18-08-2015, 06:17 PM
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Do you Republican types ever just look in the mirror sometimes, and think, WOW, what an asshole I am!, or are you just unaware of it?

We point to other nations that do things well because we want the USA to be better.

The USA is nowhere near the top by any metric except how our super-wealthy are doing. We are below almost every Western nation by any measure you could name. We are even below many Third World nations on some of the measures of national success, in terms of the average citizen. We win in only one category: mass incarceration.

When you say "like it or get out", you are treasonous to the idea that a democratic society can and should improve itself, and you don't love this nation because you don't want to see us higher than other nations by every measure. You buy into the BS of the super-wealthy which serves them but not your fellow American, and repeat demonstrably-false crap about how "great" the USA is, just as you are told to do.

My favorite baseball team might be the Chicago Cubs, but the moment I start saying that it's the best team in the league, it makes me a blind moron. If I tell someone in Chicago, who wants the Cubs to be better by doing what other (successful) teams are doing, that they should "just move to St. Louis", it makes me both an idiot and an asshole.

You are doing the same thing, there, above.

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18-08-2015, 09:01 PM (This post was last modified: 18-08-2015 09:06 PM by Alla.)
RE: First GOP Debate!
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Do you Republican types ever just look in the mirror sometimes, and think, WOW, what an asshole I am!, or are you just unaware of it?
I would like to say the same to evil Democrats and to evil Liberals.
Liberal asshole Gruber: "American people are stupid. (We can deceive them)"
Liberal assholes(Gruber's audience): Laugh out loadLaugh out loadLaugh out load
Liberal asshole Kelly Osborn:" We can't deport illegals. Who is going to clean our toilets?"
This is how Liberal assholes see illegals.
So, do not tell me that only Republican types are assholes.

Liberal President of the Unites States of America deceived American people: "if you like your plan you can keep it. PERIOD"
Then Liar and Chief said:"Oh, no, we never said this. We said: if you like your plan you can keep it IF you pay more"
This is pure evil.
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  We point to other nations that do things well because we want the USA to be better.
Wonderful. I don't mind pointing. But while you pointing you say( like your Cajun girl): I HATE living here, I will go back to Denmark". I say: Bye-bye, have a nice life.Smile
I don't mind pointing but please do not point at country that one day will become Greece.
I don't want government to take most of my money and then decide how to spend them better. I do NOT trust Liberal ASSHOLES.
I do NOT need Liberal ASSHOLES to take care of me. I prefer so be as self-reliant as possible.
If your Cajun girl loves welfare state, great. Bye-bye. Denmark is your paradise.
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  The USA is nowhere near the top by any metric except how our super-wealthy are doing. We are below almost every Western nation by any measure you could name. We are even below many Third World nations on some of the measures of national success, in terms of the average citizen. We win in only one category: mass incarceration.
Thanks to Dems and Liberals. And thanks to rhinos Republicans.
Liberal states and cities/Liberal policies fail big time.
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  When you say "like it or get out",
I have never said this. I said: if you hate to live here and you like to live in Denmark, bye-bye.
What I achieved in the USA I would never achieve in Denmark. I would never have land that I have here. In Denmark I would have small/tiny apartment (I have been to Denmark).
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  My favorite baseball team might be the Chicago Cubs, but the moment I start saying that it's the best team in the league, it makes me a blind moron.
I said that the USA is my FAVORITE country in the world.
And if someone says that I am moron for saying this, I disagree

Danish happiness. For how long?

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18-08-2015, 09:48 PM (This post was last modified: 18-08-2015 10:22 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: First GOP Debate!
(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Do you Republican types ever just look in the mirror sometimes, and think, WOW, what an asshole I am!, or are you just unaware of it?
I would like to say the same to evil Democrats and to evil Liberals.
Liberal asshole Gruber: "American people are stupid. (We can deceive them)"
Liberal assholes(Gruber's audience): Laugh out loadLaugh out loadLaugh out load
Liberal asshole Kelly Osborn:" We can't deport illegals. Who is going to clean our toilets?"
This is how Liberal assholes see illegals.
So, do not tell me that only Republican types are assholes.

Liberal President of the Unites States of America deceived American people: "if you like your plan you can keep it. PERIOD"
Then Liar and Chief said:"Oh, no, we never said this. We said: if you like your plan you can keep it IF you pay more"
This is pure evil.
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  We point to other nations that do things well because we want the USA to be better.
Wonderful. I don't mind pointing. But while you pointing you say( like your Cajun girl): I HATE living here, I will go back to Denmark". I say: Bye-bye, have a nice life.Smile
I don't mind pointing but please do not point at country that one day will become Greece.
I don't want government to take most of my money and then decide how to spend them better. I do NOT trust Liberal ASSHOLES.
I do NOT need Liberal ASSHOLES to take care of me. I prefer so be as self-reliant as possible.
If your Cajun girl loves welfare state, great. Bye-bye. Denmark is your paradise.
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  The USA is nowhere near the top by any metric except how our super-wealthy are doing. We are below almost every Western nation by any measure you could name. We are even below many Third World nations on some of the measures of national success, in terms of the average citizen. We win in only one category: mass incarceration.
Thanks to Dems and Liberals. And thanks to rhinos Republicans.
Liberal states and cities/Liberal policies fail big time.
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  When you say "like it or get out",
I have never said this. I said: if you hate to live here and you like to live in Denmark, bye-bye.
What I achieved in the USA I would never achieve in Denmark. I would never have land that I have here. In Denmark I would have small/tiny apartment (I have been to Denmark).
(18-08-2015 06:17 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  My favorite baseball team might be the Chicago Cubs, but the moment I start saying that it's the best team in the league, it makes me a blind moron.
I said that the USA is my FAVORITE country in the world.
And if someone says that I am moron for saying this, I disagree

Danish happiness. For how long?

I can't help but think your opinion of socialism is jaded by your experience of growing up in the Ukraine.

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18-08-2015, 10:03 PM
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(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  Wonderful. I don't mind pointing. But while you pointing you say( like your Cajun girl): I HATE living here, I will go back to Denmark". I say: Bye-bye, have a nice life.Smile
I don't mind pointing but please do not point at country that one day will become Greece.

"One day be Greece".

Denmark has a strong and stable economy, with one of the lowest unemployment rates on Earth.
US debt is, according to the international Monetary Fund 104.5% of it's GDP, Denmark's is 44.5%, and has a better credit rating than the US.

Now, which nation is on the road to Greece, again?

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18-08-2015, 10:33 PM
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(18-08-2015 10:03 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  Wonderful. I don't mind pointing. But while you pointing you say( like your Cajun girl): I HATE living here, I will go back to Denmark". I say: Bye-bye, have a nice life.Smile
I don't mind pointing but please do not point at country that one day will become Greece.

"One day be Greece".

Denmark has a strong and stable economy, with one of the lowest unemployment rates on Earth.
US debt is, according to the international Monetary Fund 104.5% of it's GDP, Denmark's is 44.5%, and has a better credit rating than the US.

Now, which nation is on the road to Greece, again?

What the hell are you doing FT? Bring up facts into this debate!? Don't you know if they didn't show it on Faux News or it isn't drip-fed to you from your pastor, it isn't true!? Weeping

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18-08-2015, 10:39 PM
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(18-08-2015 10:33 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(18-08-2015 10:03 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  "One day be Greece".

Denmark has a strong and stable economy, with one of the lowest unemployment rates on Earth.
US debt is, according to the international Monetary Fund 104.5% of it's GDP, Denmark's is 44.5%, and has a better credit rating than the US.

Now, which nation is on the road to Greece, again?

What the hell are you doing FT? Bring up facts into this debate!? Don't you know if they didn't show it on Faux News or it isn't drip-fed to you from your pastor, it isn't true!? Weeping

Forgive me! I forgot!

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18-08-2015, 10:43 PM (This post was last modified: 18-08-2015 10:50 PM by RocketSurgeon76.)
RE: First GOP Debate!
(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  I would like to say the same to evil Democrats and to evil Liberals.
Liberal asshole Gruber: "American people are stupid. (We can deceive them)"
Liberal assholes(Gruber's audience): Laugh out loadLaugh out loadLaugh out load
Liberal asshole Kelly Osborn:" We can't deport illegals. Who is going to clean our toilets?"
This is how Liberal assholes see illegals.
So, do not tell me that only Republican types are assholes.

Kelly Osborne is a liberal? Aren't the Osbornes Brits?

(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  Liberal President of the Unites States of America deceived American people: "if you like your plan you can keep it. PERIOD"
Then Liar and Chief said:"Oh, no, we never said this. We said: if you like your plan you can keep it IF you pay more"
This is pure evil.

Not sure where you'd find this except on Faux News, but I like my Obamacare. I like it. I think its only flaws are that it was a compromise from the better solution, compromises put in place through the efforts of (insurance company) lobbyists who poured millions, literally MILLIONS, into the pockets of senators who'd hem it up until they could gut it... and then the gutted version gets blamed on the President. I have seen numerous examples of deliberate lies told about the ACA, but here are a few. (By the way, the last one shows that the "pay more for new plan" when you couldn't "keep your old plan" was because the law sets minimum requirements for plans, and not all of the bottom-rung plans qualified under the law... meaning they did not provide adequate medical coverage and were made illegal. It had nothing to do with the Obamacare coverage, but with making substandard plans illegal. Don't distort facts.)

(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  Wonderful. I don't mind pointing. But while you pointing you say( like your Cajun girl): I HATE living here, I will go back to Denmark". I say: Bye-bye, have a nice life.Smile
I don't mind pointing but please do not point at country that one day will become Greece.
I don't want government to take most of my money and then decide how to spend them better. I do NOT trust Liberal ASSHOLES.
I do NOT need Liberal ASSHOLES to take care of me. I prefer so be as self-reliant as possible.
If your Cajun girl loves welfare state, great. Bye-bye. Denmark is your paradise.

She likes it a lot. She wishes, as I do, that the USA was up to its standards, since almost everyone she loves is here, but she thinks the conditions are better there for her and for their child. If the USA was equal, she'd be glad to stay I'm sure.

Someone else already addressed the "becoming Greece" bit, but I would like to suggest you re-read what he wrote, since your delusions are not charming or cute.

I hate to see her go, but yeah she will go. But you don't get to tell her "bye bye" like you're cheering for her departure. If you weren't a prick, you'd be sad someone found the USA inferior to another country, especially someone as intelligent and kind-hearted as Lenora. And you clearly missed the part where I explained that the difference of how much of "your money" goes to gov't versus goes to private companies that rob you the same way, or just don't get it. You might feel comfortable making 'straw man' arguments out of what Liberals think and how the world works, so you can laugh at it, but here in RealityLand™, it's a bit more complicated than that.

(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  Thanks to Dems and Liberals. And thanks to rhinos Republicans.
Liberal states and cities/Liberal policies fail big time.

Are you high? You have not one shred of evidence to back that up. We're talking about places that have "liberal" (by your standards, even European conservatives are liberal) policies in place... and how America falls short. The only times USA seems to do well is when we have a "liberal" (I use that in the USA's sense, meaning moderate everywhere else) President, like Clinton. Every time we have a Republican in chief seat of power, more money slips into hands of fat cats in this country and/or overseas to multinational companies that don't care if America falls so long as they can bleed it dry before they go.

(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  I have never said this. I said: if you hate to live here and you like to live in Denmark, bye-bye.
What I achieved in the USA I would never achieve in Denmark. I would never have land that I have here. In Denmark I would have small/tiny apartment (I have been to Denmark).

Wow, really? You mean, you've been to Copenhagen, and think the entire place is like the urban areas? Yes, it's heavily urbanized, but you would not have to have small/tiny apartment unless you wanted to live in a dense part of a city. That's like going to Manhattan in NYC and saying the whole USA is like that. You can't be that narrow-minded! Can you? There's more to life than square footage. Let's deal in facts, shall we?

"Danes enjoy a high standard of living and the country ranks highly in numerous comparisons of national performance, including education, health care, protection of civil liberties, democratic governance, prosperity and human development. Denmark is frequently ranked as one of the happiest countries in the world in cross-national studies of happiness. The country ranks as having the world's highest social mobility, a high level of income equality, has one of the world's highest per capita incomes, and has one of the world's highest personal income tax rates." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark

In other words, they don't mind being taxed because they get something in return. Whether that system is perfect, or as good as it used to be, is irrelevant... it's all a damned sight better than ours, objectively and subjectively, and it's because we have gutted our equivalent social programs that lead to the things, above, that people cite when they talk about how happy they are to live there and what their standards of living are.

(18-08-2015 09:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  I said that the USA is my FAVORITE country in the world.
And if someone says that I am moron for saying this, I disagree

Danish happiness. For how long?

You completely missed the point of my talk, there. I say that people, especially Conservative ASSHOLES (I use all caps since you like to do that with the word liberals), seem to like to say that the USA is "the best", but it's not backed up by any objective reality or data. That's why I used the Cubs. They are statistically one of the worst teams in baseball, for years... yet they still have die-hard fans, there in Chicago. That's great. But when a Cubs fan starts saying to someone who's in Chicago that they'd better love the Cubs or get out, because the Cubs are the Best Team Ever™ there's something broken in that guy's brain, especially if the guy is admiring the St. Louis Cardinals (one of the best teams in the league) and saying that he'd like to move to StL just to have a good team, if the Cubs can't get their asses in gear... and the guy's like, "Fine... bye!" It makes the hardcore Cubs fan both blind and an asshole.

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18-08-2015, 11:18 PM
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Yes, I agree with Alla. Denmark is a horrible, horrible socialist nation. The government takes almost half my money and give it away to my fellow countrymen. Oh wait I have been using the healthcare system for a great portion of my adult life and a fair bit when I was a child. I have been to school up til I was ready to go to university. And my parents aren't in horrible debt because of it.

I was borne with a club foot. It got fixed before I could walk.

At the age of three I had another operation as a friend and I trashed the neighbors' greenhouse and I was stupid enough to step on a glass shard.

At the age of 11 or something I fell on some cut down bushes at my wrist got torn open, including the main artery.

At the age 15 someone accidentally threw a stone in my eye. (I'd take a torn open wrist any day rather than getting hit in the eye by a stone)

At the age 23 my newly-ish born daughter scratched my in the other eye.

At the age 26 I had myself admitted to a psychiatric hospital due to a heavy depression and cutting. I'm still trying to get over that part at the age of 34.

Through this nor my parents or me have receive no medical bills except perhaps to pay for medicine here and there (Which incidentally you can earn up to 80% discount on over a year depending how much you have spent on medicine and if your bill gets really high like mine did. You can get even more)

I don't have to worry about my daughters education being poor or bad because I have huge medical bill to pay. I can even dream of one day take on a university degree. . . as part of my recovery can then hopefully be able to pay back just a little of all those taxpayer money that have been spend on me. I will never be able to repay whatever my fellow countrymen have payed in taxed to help me. . . someone they don't know and will never hear about. But I will try to do just a bit.

That's how horrible a fairly well governed socialist country can do.

It should be mentioned that here in Denmark we also talk about greater inequality between the rich and the poor. We also talk about our schools being bad. About bad hospitals. About bad eldercare. About horrible politicians (are there any other type?)
We have the same problems but our starting point seems to be somewhat better than so many other nations. The US included.

Don't be scared to be a bit more socialist you in the US already have a somewhat trustworthy government so you wouldn't go the way of the USSR of in those lines. your political traditions is far better than that. So embrace taking care of your less fortunate fellow countrymen even those you will never know or hear of.
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18-08-2015, 11:29 PM
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Nishi - Plus, you guys have Volbeat! Gotta be some bonus points for that. Tongue

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