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23-08-2015, 04:51 PM
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The EPA has admitted the toxic spill -- which temporarily turned the Animas River a shade of yellow-orange -- occurred when one of its teams was using heavy equipment to enter the mine. Instead of beginning the process of pumping and treating the contaminated water inside the mine as planned, the team accidentally caused it to flow into the nearby Animas River.

EPA has to pay price for the accident.

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23-08-2015, 04:53 PM
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(23-08-2015 04:35 PM)Chas Wrote:  While it is true that the Animas River suffered a polluting event, the EPA didn't pollute the river.
Sure, I have to trust liberal media. liberal media will protect liberal EPA.

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23-08-2015, 05:46 PM (This post was last modified: 23-08-2015 05:53 PM by RocketSurgeon76.)
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Assuming your story is 100% accurate, Alla, it still doesn't mean that EPA are deliberate polluters, so your argument is a strawman.

If the EPA, through negligence, cause that pollution, then other (private) environmental groups can get the people affected by the spill to sue the agency and individuals responsible for it, just like any other civil tort.

And you're conflating intentional actions with genuine accidents, focusing on the outcome rather than the intent behind it. This is something people with brain damage do. Literally:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085837/

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23-08-2015, 10:36 PM (This post was last modified: 23-08-2015 10:40 PM by EvolutionKills.)
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(23-08-2015 04:53 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 04:35 PM)Chas Wrote:  While it is true that the Animas River suffered a polluting event, the EPA didn't pollute the river.
Sure, I have to trust liberal media. liberal media will protect liberal EPA.

Someone is having trouble wrestling with reality.

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27-08-2015, 06:26 PM
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(23-08-2015 05:46 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Assuming your story is 100% accurate, Alla, it still doesn't mean that EPA are deliberate polluters, so your argument is a strawman.
I am not so sure. EPA is corrupt government agency.
I do NOT trust big government people.
I would trust you. I believe that you would never do anything like this. You are not corrupt.

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27-08-2015, 09:38 PM
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(27-08-2015 06:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-08-2015 05:46 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Assuming your story is 100% accurate, Alla, it still doesn't mean that EPA are deliberate polluters, so your argument is a strawman.
I am not so sure. EPA is corrupt government agency.
I do NOT trust big government people.
I would trust you. I believe that you would never do anything like this. You are not corrupt.

But he's an evil Satan worshiping heathen socialist!

He thinks that the state shouldn't say 'fuck it' and let people die in the streets just because they cannot afford healthcare... Gasp

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27-08-2015, 09:50 PM
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Thank you for that, Alla, but I am trying to explain to you that, while the top people (being political appointees) in the EPA might be corrupt, the people at the bottom who do the actual work of the EPA are just like me.

I worked for a state, rather than the federal, agency, but we reported to the EPA, and I can assure you they care very deeply about the things that are happening to our environment and to the health of the American citizens being affected by our elites' willingness to destroy anything they must, in order to make a profit.

As I said, the people who are telling you not to trust the EPA are people who stand to make major $$$ in direct relation to how much they can hamstring environmental regulations. The ones who suffer most when this happens are the very people they are most likely to convince.

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27-08-2015, 09:52 PM
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(27-08-2015 09:38 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he's an evil Satan worshiping heathen socialist!

He thinks that the state shouldn't say 'fuck it' and let people die in the streets just because they cannot afford healthcare... Gasp

I prefer the term civilized. Drinking Beverage

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27-08-2015, 10:07 PM
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(27-08-2015 09:38 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(27-08-2015 06:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  I am not so sure. EPA is corrupt government agency.
I do NOT trust big government people.
I would trust you. I believe that you would never do anything like this. You are not corrupt.

But he's an evil Satan worshiping heathen socialist!

He thinks that the state shouldn't say 'fuck it' and let people die in the streets just because they cannot afford healthcare... Gasp
Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?
You (liberals/evil Marxist) screwed up everything. Gruber said about people like you: "STUPID"

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27-08-2015, 10:11 PM
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(27-08-2015 09:50 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Thank you for that, Alla,
you are welcome
(27-08-2015 09:50 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  but I am trying to explain to you that, while the top people (being political appointees) in the EPA might be corrupt, the people at the bottom who do the actual work of the EPA are just like me.
I believe you.
(27-08-2015 09:50 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  I worked for a state, rather than the federal, agency, but we reported to the EPA, and I can assure you they care very deeply about the things that are happening to our environment and to the health of the American citizens being affected by our elites' willingness to destroy anything they must, in order to make a profit.
I believe that any elites (EPA and Companies) do not care about environment. Or may be they do care, but they care more about money.
(27-08-2015 09:50 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  As I said, the people who are telling you not to trust the EPA are people who stand to make major $$$ in direct relation to how much they can hamstring environmental regulations. The ones who suffer most when this happens are the very people they are most likely to convince.
Possible. I will not say they don't lie. Who can you trust in the 21st century?

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