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27-08-2015, 10:25 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
"Obamacare" most definitely helped me. I am a survivor of both cancer and autoimmune disease, and as a self-employed small businessman, I would most definitely NOT be able to afford healthcare coverage under the old set of rules.

My only real complaint is that the ACA was hamstrung from its original intent of providing socialized medicine to all, like every other First World country already has... it is laughable that the same people who hamstrung it now use the hamstrung version as "evidence" against the concept.

Many things work just fine on a "free market economy" type of setup; I do not for a second think that our health should be one of those things, and I think the evidence of this is conclusive. However bad the systems may be in other nations, it is still a mark of civilization that they are trying. Indeed, I'd be willing to bet that if the USA did not protect the major corporations that profit so astoundingly (by %) off the private healthcare system, the systems in other nations would improve markedly.

People who tell you not to trust single-payer systems are profiting no less than those who tell you not to trust environmental regulations, and both are means of profiting from our suffering. It should be unthinkable that it is this way in the 21st century, let alone the status quo.

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27-08-2015, 10:47 PM
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(27-08-2015 10:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?

Yes.

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28-08-2015, 01:05 AM
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(27-08-2015 10:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(27-08-2015 09:38 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he's an evil Satan worshiping heathen socialist!

He thinks that the state shouldn't say 'fuck it' and let people die in the streets just because they cannot afford healthcare... Gasp
Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?
You (liberals/evil Marxist) screwed up everything. Gruber said about people like you: "STUPID"

Obama is not a socialist you stupid cunt.

He's a pro-corporate centrist Democrat who just happens to be cool with gay people and Latinos.

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28-08-2015, 01:07 AM
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(27-08-2015 10:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(27-08-2015 09:38 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he's an evil Satan worshiping heathen socialist!

He thinks that the state shouldn't say 'fuck it' and let people die in the streets just because they cannot afford healthcare... Gasp
Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?
You (liberals/evil Marxist) screwed up everything. Gruber said about people like you: "STUPID"

screwed up everything? At what stages of history do you think things were set well off before those you dislike screwed it up?

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28-08-2015, 01:48 AM
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(28-08-2015 01:05 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(27-08-2015 10:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?
You (liberals/evil Marxist) screwed up everything. Gruber said about people like you: "STUPID"

Obama is not a socialist you stupid cunt.

He's a pro-corporate centrist Democrat who just happens to be cool with gay people and Latinos.

How dare he! Angry

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28-08-2015, 02:25 AM
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(27-08-2015 10:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(27-08-2015 09:38 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he's an evil Satan worshiping heathen socialist!

He thinks that the state shouldn't say 'fuck it' and let people die in the streets just because they cannot afford healthcare... Gasp
Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?
You (liberals/evil Marxist) screwed up everything. Gruber said about people like you: "STUPID"

You sound like a child having a tantrum. Grow up.

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28-08-2015, 04:13 PM
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(27-08-2015 10:25 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  "Obamacare" most definitely helped me. I am a survivor of both cancer and autoimmune disease, and as a self-employed small businessman, I would most definitely NOT be able to afford healthcare coverage under the old set of rules.
I believe that Obamacare helped some people. But many lost their plan that they liked. Many can not have the same doctor. They lost because of Obamacare.
how much does Obamacare cost to taxpayers? How much is our debt?
He lied. He said it will not add to our debt.
Obama is irresponsible. He is unpatriotic. This is what he said about Bush who put us in much smaller debt.

I hate big government. Obamacare is product of big government.
Marxists love big government. I don't like Marxism. Marxism is opium for the people.

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28-08-2015, 04:15 PM
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(28-08-2015 02:25 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(27-08-2015 10:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  Did socialist Obama help a lot of people?
You (liberals/evil Marxist) screwed up everything. Gruber said about people like you: "STUPID"

You sound like a child having a tantrum. Grow up.

You sound like big government guy(Marxist).

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28-08-2015, 04:38 PM
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(28-08-2015 04:15 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 02:25 AM)Chas Wrote:  You sound like a child having a tantrum. Grow up.

You sound like big government guy(Marxist).

Now, Marxist theory has never been my strong suit, but I could have sworn that Marx advocated for governmentless, classless states, ruled by the society itself, as opposed to being ruled by an empowered elite.

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28-08-2015, 04:53 PM
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(28-08-2015 04:13 PM)Alla Wrote:  Obama is irresponsible. He is unpatriotic. This is what he said about Bush who put us in much smaller debt.

Do you even try to make sure you're not gonna sound stupid before you post?

Obama has added 53% to the debt since he came into office. Bush added 101% to the debt during his time in office.

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