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09-08-2015, 11:40 PM
RE: First GOP Debate!
(09-08-2015 11:06 PM)Alla Wrote:  Did Robin Hood was giving to the poor what was his?
If he did this I respect and admire him.
If he was giving to the poor what was not his I have no respect for this bandit/communist.
This is what communists do. Imagine you live in apartment with three bedrooms. Robin Hood is coming and telling you that it is too much. Then he forces you to share your two bedrooms with two more families.
I lived in this kind of apartment. I hate Robin Hoods. Stinking socialists.

This system actually can be effective and efficient if the participants share common goals and can agree on boundaries (like what is public vs. private property).

Then it's about fairness and accountability regarding contributions... Each according to their needs and each according to their abilities.

Peace and harmony ensues ... when managed well.

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10-08-2015, 12:43 PM (This post was last modified: 10-08-2015 12:48 PM by Alla.)
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(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:06 PM)Alla Wrote:  Did Robin Hood was giving to the poor what was his?
No, because he didn't actually exist.
But they(Robin Hoods) do exist. Every socialist/communist/progressive is Robin Hood. Sanders is Robin Hood.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he's remembered classically for helping to redistribute wealth from the rich who hadn't earned it back to the poor who needed it.
Hmm... what would he redistribute if there was no rich?
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I don't remember anything about him keeping a cut of the proceeding and living out of a mansion with a private jet,
Real Robin Hoods have all this. Ask Robin Hood Hillary Clinton. What she makes in one hour( by giving speech) you will never have in your whole life. This is income inequality..
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  perhaps you'd have better luck checking in with your LDS leaders for examples?
I suspect you know something what I do not know about their wealth.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he didn't hear voices in his head, which near as I can tell is a prerequisite for you to put any amount of faith in anybody.
What does it have to do with evil radical idea of sharing?

(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:06 PM)Alla Wrote:  If he was giving to the poor what was not his I have no respect for this bandit/communist.
As opposed to the barons and landed elites who basically owned the poor, and took everything they had by 'divine right'?
You create your own wealth and then you give everything away to the poor.
Robin Hoods do not create their own wealth. Their either stupid or lazy or they are evil like Hillary Clinton or this Marxist Sanders.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Are you actually pro-serfdom, you incredulous fuck?
No, I am not pro-serfdom, you twisted evil fuck.
I am pro- Create your own wealth and then give(redistribute) it to the poor.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:06 PM)Alla Wrote:  This is what communists do. Imagine you live in apartment with three bedrooms.
I live in a 2 room mobile home with 1 other roommate, without any government assistance, while working 2 jobs for 60+ hours a week to make ends meet.
You own too much. You can share with 2 more roommates your mobile home. When there are thousands of homeless people you have too much. You selfish fuck.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  So you can take your presupposition and fuck yourself in the ass with it; vigorously, and without lubrication.
You are selfish fuck. There are 2 more homeless people who need some roof.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I live in the United States, and Robin Hood took from the rich to give to the poor. He wouldn't be accosting me, he'd be harassing Donald Trump and the rest of the 1% that owns 95% of the nation's wealth.
Facepalm :weeping:You are ignorant fuck. first they squeeze the rich until rich are no more. Then they squeeze ignorant and poor fuck like you.
Robin Hoods need to have some mansions and jets. I like Hillary's mansions. Can I have one room?
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:06 PM)Alla Wrote:  I lived in this kind of apartment. I hate Robin Hoods. Stinking socialists.
Robin Hood didn't take from the poor to give to the poor, so I don't know why you'd have a beef with him.
May be because he was stopped just on time.
First you squeeze the rich until rich is not rich anymore or before he runs away.
Then you squeeze middle class. Then you squeeze the poor.
When everyone is poor then Robin Hood is HAPPY.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  If your government is fucking over the poor,
It is not my government anymore.
But EVERY socialist first is fucking the rich. Then he will fuck you.
But you are too ignorant fuck to know this. I guess you TRUST them. You are ignorant fuck.

(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  and you're angry at the other poor instead of the rich who actually wield power, then you're even dumber than I thought;
You are fuck. I am not angry at other poor. I am angry at those poor who instead of creating their own wealth start to TERRORIZE people.
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  because the rich have won, they fooled you. They tricked the poor into hating each other so the don't notice the one's actually in charge, and thus nothing changes. Congrats and continuing the cycle of ignorance and hate, you stupid fuck.
Actually rich fucks like Soros or Hilary trick stupid poor fucks like you to hate the rich. Soros is still a billionaire. Hillary is rich fuck. Let's hate rich Soros and Hillary.
Hillary will redistribute Mitt Romney's wealth. I wonder what she is going to do with her wealth? O, may be she will make you more rich.

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10-08-2015, 12:43 PM
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10-08-2015, 12:55 PM
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(09-08-2015 11:39 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, I am glad that you realize that this sign is incorrect.

The sign is a commentary on how much of a socialist hippy Jesus can appear to be in the Bible, which most right-wing conservative fundamentalists like to forget.

They like to quote the Bible in support of their hate speech and prejudice, and yet oppose some dark skinned man trying to get people healthcare. But it doesn't surprise me that the irony of it is lost on someone as ignorant as you.

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Jesus was not a socialist like rich socialist Obama.
Jesus was teaching this: create your own wealth and share it. But it has to come from your heart. It has to be your will.
Community organizer and Chief B. H. Obama(robin Hood) did not create his own wealth to redistribute to the poor. He wants others to do this. He is rich fuck.
He wants TO FORCE others to his will.

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10-08-2015, 12:59 PM
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(09-08-2015 11:40 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Then it's about fairness and accountability regarding contributions... Each according to their needs and each according to their abilities.

Peace and harmony ensues ... when managed well.

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Ahh, Communism
Humans are not ready for this yet. May be during the Millennium when Jesus is back. Big Grin

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10-08-2015, 01:06 PM
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(10-08-2015 12:55 PM)Alla Wrote:  Jesus was teaching this: create your own wealth and share it.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Jesus was not a wealthy man. I don't think you understand Jesus at all.

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:24

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10-08-2015, 01:16 PM (This post was last modified: 10-08-2015 01:20 PM by DLJ.)
RE: First GOP Debate!
(10-08-2015 12:55 PM)Alla Wrote:  ...
Jesus was teaching this: create your own wealth and share it. But it has to come from your heart. It has to be your will.
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Where was that written? Chapter and verse, please.

I remember the bit about not creating wealth by giving no thought for the morrow. Was that the speech?

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10-08-2015, 01:24 PM
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(10-08-2015 12:59 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:40 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Then it's about fairness and accountability regarding contributions... Each according to their needs and each according to their abilities.

Peace and harmony ensues ... when managed well.

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Ahh, Communism
Humans are not ready for this yet. May be during the Millennium when Jesus is back. Big Grin

I decided I couldn't wait that long (i.e. forever) so i started my own commune.

Some humans are more than ready for it.

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10-08-2015, 01:57 PM (This post was last modified: 10-08-2015 02:01 PM by EvolutionKills.)
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(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  No, because he didn't actually exist.
But they(Robin Hoods) do exist. Every socialist/communist/progressive is Robin Hood. Sanders is Robin Hood.

Yep, sure they all are. Everyone in group X hold Z ideas, yep.

Your blanket generalizations do you no favors here.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he's remembered classically for helping to redistribute wealth from the rich who hadn't earned it back to the poor who needed it.
Hmm... what would he redistribute if there was no rich?

A pointless question, one has to wonder if you're really too stupid to answer it yourself.

If there was no wealth inequality, there would be no need to redistribute any wealth, now would there? Facepalm


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I don't remember anything about him keeping a cut of the proceeding and living out of a mansion with a private jet,
Real Robin Hoods have all this. Ask Robin Hood Hillary Clinton. What she makes in one hour( by giving speech) you will never have in your whole life. This is income inequality..

For the record, she's not a progressive. At all. She a pro-corporate moderate Democrat (and moderate Democrats are often far right of European conservatives, to put that into perspective). Plus, you're the one arguing in favor of income inequality because you've been shitting all over the idea in your infantile attack against Robin Hood of all things. She's a symptom of one of the very things wrong with the system, the system you apparently want to protect. She's an exemplar of your fucked ideals, not mine.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  perhaps you'd have better luck checking in with your LDS leaders for examples?
I suspect you know something what I do not know about their wealth.


They own more land in Missouri than the state of Missouri. They are the largest un-taxed corporation in the United States, owning billions in real estates and business, which the church conveniently writes off as expenses rather than income. The LDS church is worth an estimated $40 billion and brings in about $8 billion annually, all un-taxed.

They use that wealth to build temples and line their own pockets, not feeding the poor; even though the basis of religious tax-exemption is the idea that church would provide charitable work. Instead religion is treated like a tax haven and convenient money-laundering scheme, while providing very little (if any) benefits to the communities they supposedly serve.

They're sitting atop $40 billion, and yet missionaries are still expected to pay for their own mandatory missions overseas.

So, you are right, I know far more about the fucked finances of your church than you do. Remember that next time, preferable before you open your ignorant mouth.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  But he didn't hear voices in his head, which near as I can tell is a prerequisite for you to put any amount of faith in anybody.
What does it have to do with evil radical idea of sharing?

Well, you only appear to trust admittedly crazy people.

Also, calling 'sharing' evil speaks volumes about just how fucked in the head you are. Sharing is one of our species strongest virtues, it's what has allowed us to survive and thrive. We have always been at our best working together, rather than working against. That you'd label one of our most successful survival strategies as 'evil' speaks only of your brainwashed ignorance and fucked narcissism.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  As opposed to the barons and landed elites who basically owned the poor, and took everything they had by 'divine right'?
You create your own wealth and then you give everything away to the poor.

Yep, Donald Trump created the billions of dollars he inherited from his father, right...

You are stupid as shit.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  Robin Hoods do not create their own wealth. Their either stupid or lazy or they are evil like Hillary Clinton or this Marxist Sanders.

Once again, Hillary is not a progressive, so quit trying to get me to defend her.

Also the only one here demonstrating absolute ignorance about the facts of the world is you.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Are you actually pro-serfdom, you incredulous fuck?
No, I am not pro-serfdom, you twisted evil fuck.

But releasing the serfs from serfdom would be a (oh no!) redistribution of wealth! It would require taking away the god-given rights of the landed nobility and returning them to the people, the horror!

The abolition of serfdom and slavery were both progressive reforms you stupid cunt. Facepalm


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  I am pro- Create your own wealth and then give(redistribute) it to the poor.

Giving is not redistributing, it is simply giving. Redistributing is required because not everyone would otherwise voluntarily contribute to the maintenance a society requires.

Progressives are not purely anti wealth-inequality, but the amount or range of inequality is something to be debated. Quite clearly things have gotten out of control in the United States, which is seeing the worst inequality since the Gilded Age.

ProTip: Google 'gilded age' you stupid fuck.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I live in a 2 room mobile home with 1 other roommate, without any government assistance, while working 2 jobs for 60+ hours a week to make ends meet.
You own too much. You can share with 2 more roommates your mobile home. When there are thousands of homeless people you have too much. You selfish fuck.

That's debatable, but the one giving up rooms first should be those with the wealth and the means to afford to do so. How many spare rooms does Donald Trump have? How many spare rooms do the Koch brothers have? Once they're down to sharing half of a mobile home with a roommate, then come back and we can talk about who can afford to give more to those who need it.

Cunt.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  So you can take your presupposition and fuck yourself in the ass with it; vigorously, and without lubrication.
You are selfish fuck. There are 2 more homeless people who need some roof.

See above.

Cunt.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I live in the United States, and Robin Hood took from the rich to give to the poor. He wouldn't be accosting me, he'd be harassing Donald Trump and the rest of the 1% that owns 95% of the nation's wealth.
Facepalm Weeping You are ignorant fuck. first they squeeze the rich until rich are no more. Then they squeeze ignorant and poor fuck like you.

The rich are the ones doing the squeezing you incredulous shitbag... Facepalm


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  Robin Hoods need to have some mansions and jets. I like Hillary's mansions. Can I have one room?

Hillary is not a socialist or a progressive you ignorant fucktard.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Robin Hood didn't take from the poor to give to the poor, so I don't know why you'd have a beef with him.
May be because he was stopped just on time.
First you squeeze the rich until rich is not rich anymore or before he runs away.
Then you squeeze middle class. Then you squeeze the poor.
When everyone is poor then Robin Hood is HAPPY.

Right now the only ones being squeezed are the middle and lower classes, and it is all going to the wealthiest. Those who already have the most, buy the government and rig the system in their favor to keep it that way.

Years of statistical analysis supports this, it is not merely my opinion, it is in fact happening. Almost the entirety of the post-2008 economic recovery went into the hands of the 1%, and the rest of the 99% of America got fuck all or were even worse off than before.

You really don't have a fucking clue how the world around you works. Just promise me you don't vote and make it even worse for your neighbors.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  If your government is fucking over the poor,
It is not my government anymore.
But EVERY socialist first is fucking the rich. Then he will fuck you.
But you are too ignorant fuck to know this. I guess you TRUST them. You are ignorant fuck.

Do the 1% still control 95% of all the wealth? Yes?

Then fuck you, you stupid cunt. You don't know shit.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  and you're angry at the other poor instead of the rich who actually wield power, then you're even dumber than I thought;
You are fuck. I am not angry at other poor. I am angry at those poor who instead of creating their own wealth start to TERRORIZE people.

The rich own us all, and you're too busy demonizing other poor people rather than attempting to stop those who actually have power (i.e. the wealthy) from further fucking you over. You are dumber than the ground you walk on.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(09-08-2015 11:34 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  because the rich have won, they fooled you. They tricked the poor into hating each other so the don't notice the one's actually in charge, and thus nothing changes. Congrats and continuing the cycle of ignorance and hate, you stupid fuck.
Actually rich fucks like Soros or Hilary trick stupid poor fucks like you to hate the rich. Soros is still a billionaire. Hillary is rich fuck. Let's hate rich Soros and Hillary.

Once again, I'm not here to defend billionaires who just happen to be pro-gay rights when they're not helping banks and international corporations further drain the middle and lower classes.

So stop pretending like Hillary Clinton is god's gift to liberals, she's a fucking conservative hack that just happens to not hate gay people.


(10-08-2015 12:43 PM)Alla Wrote:  Hillary will redistribute Mitt Romney's wealth. I wonder what she is going to do with her wealth? O, may be she will make you more rich.

She will do no such thing, she's a PRO-CORPORATE Democrat you stupid fuck...

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10-08-2015, 02:20 PM
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EK - Could not agree more about Clinton. It drives me crazy that she's considered the "liberal" alternative; she hasn't held a position that's truly liberal since the 70s, and has been rooted in that version of (ex-) liberalism ever since. She is certainly not progressive, no matter how many of the social justice concepts her advisors tell her to parrot. Many of my European friends over the years have laughed at the idea of the American left being called "socialist" by our corporate-owned media, since they'd barely count as moderate conservatives, in most Euro nations, let alone leftists, let alone socialists! So having to listen to (American version) right-wing nutjobs calling President Obama, Hillary Clinton, or Bernie Sanders a socialist makes me want to tear my hair out and then just start smacking people with the books they need to read, screaming "READ A BOOK! FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING!!"

Ugh!

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