For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
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12-03-2014, 10:45 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:42 AM)donotwant Wrote:  I'm not coloring you I'm laughing at your response about unmotivated people. So according to you all morals are subjective. So are we fucked or what?

You are, because you're an idiot.

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12-03-2014, 10:45 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:44 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 12:59 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  Can you show me how morals acquire the ability to leap out of your brains, or of any other brain for that matter, and become an 'object'? If so, by what process does this occur?

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12-03-2014, 10:46 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:45 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:42 AM)donotwant Wrote:  I'm not coloring you I'm laughing at your response about unmotivated people. So according to you all morals are subjective. So are we fucked or what?

You are, because you're an idiot.

What are you gonna say to the cultures who are beating the shit out of people on regular basis and treat em like shit?
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12-03-2014, 10:47 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:45 AM)donotwant Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:44 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  I
Could kill you.
Ask yourself...

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12-03-2014, 10:48 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:47 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:45 AM)donotwant Wrote:  Cuz you don't have the balls Cool

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12-03-2014, 10:48 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:47 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:45 AM)donotwant Wrote:  Cuz you don't have the balls Cool

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12-03-2014, 10:53 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:42 AM)natachan Wrote:  
Quote:Then be aware that your definition of 'morality' is so out that as to be considered specious. Not that you're wrong, but I find your seeming lack of any regard for empathy and social context to be a troubling gap in your assessment.

I don't understand this statement. I donate time and money to the Red Cross. I feel empathy for those who are injured and in need of help. But how does my empathy change the morality of my actions? The empathy is a result of my value of human life and human potential. It is not primary and independant, but a secondary result of my values. My values have guided my actions, the empathy is a secondary result of those values.

You said that you base yoru morality on the self.

"Morality is to live up to what is best within ourselves. It is the seeking of our happiness and well being."

That right there does not explicitly include a concern for other's well-being. If you happen to have empathy and value it, then what I quoted would compel you to exemplify that; and I would agree that is a good thing. However in regards to a psychopath, a person who by definition lacks empathy? They would be morally justified in your system, so long as they thought they were living up to the best of their potential; because "the only judge that matters is the man himself". This is what I meant by being worried about the lack of social context and empathy, because neither appeared to be explicit in what I read. Maybe I missed it or you have a better explanation, but this is what immediately jumped out at me as being a potential problem vis-à-vis my own subjective morality.

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12-03-2014, 10:57 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:46 AM)donotwant Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:45 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  You are, because you're an idiot.

What are you gonna say to the cultures who are beating the shit out of people on regular basis and treat em like shit?

For the love of shit you inbred goat fucker.

All you can do is appeal to evidence and reason. I've now said that for the umpteenth time. What the fuck are you going to do, appeal to their god? How about the spirit of Spinoza? Maybe pray on a copy of one of Sam Harris' books?

Fucking idiot...

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12-03-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:57 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:46 AM)donotwant Wrote:  What are you gonna say to the cultures who are beating the shit out of people on regular basis and treat em like shit?

For the love of shit you inbred goat fucker.

All you can do is appeal to evidence and reason. I've now said that for the umpteenth time. What the fuck are you going to do, appeal to their god? How about the spirit of Spinoza? Maybe pray on a copy of one of Sam Harris' books?

Fucking idiot...
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12-03-2014, 11:07 AM
RE: For those atheists that believe in objective morality, can you prove it?
(12-03-2014 10:58 AM)donotwant Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 10:57 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  For the love of shit you inbred goat fucker.

All you can do is appeal to evidence and reason. I've now said that for the umpteenth time. What the fuck are you going to do, appeal to their god? How about the spirit of Spinoza? Maybe pray on a copy of one of Sam Harris' books?

Fucking idiot...
You are pointless to talk to Facepalm

What are you going to do? Tell them that your morality is objectively superior?

Tell me how well that works out for you dumbass...

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