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07-11-2015, 12:35 PM
RE: Forbes: religion makes kids more selfish
(07-11-2015 08:20 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(07-11-2015 08:04 AM)epronovost Wrote:  Not a bad plan if you want my opinion, plus Odin should send you a warning in the form of a Valkyrie. She's also going to give you a ride on a magic horse to get to heaven. It's a lot faster than walking.

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07-11-2015, 12:59 PM
RE: Forbes: religion makes kids more selfish
Jokes aside, I don't think there is a single drive we possess that can't be rationally defined as selfish, even if that drive is to stimulate our mirror neurons by helping others. The difference between selfish and selfless is defined primarily by perception and semantics. I'd nonetheless love to reach a point where religion truly becomes obsolete Tongue

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07-11-2015, 02:02 PM (This post was last modified: 07-11-2015 02:08 PM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Forbes: religion makes kids more selfish
(07-11-2015 12:35 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(07-11-2015 08:20 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Valkyrie is, by and by, one of my favorite proper nouns in English.

Also, it's a pretty sweet motorcycle.

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Carry on.

If you've been around bikes a long time - you can see the "Arlenness" of it....

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08-11-2015, 07:48 AM
RE: Forbes: religion makes kids more selfish
This was also on The Guardian. I do like the guardians headline a bit more.
Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/no...kids-study

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08-11-2015, 08:39 AM
RE: Forbes: religion makes kids more selfish
(08-11-2015 07:48 AM)izel Wrote:  This was also on The Guardian. I do like the guardians headline a bit more.
Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/no...kids-study

Yea, while the headlines might be more appealing, they're not very accurate either.

The study shows that in a sticker version of the dictator game, religious kids give away about 36% of the stickers, while the non-religious kids give away about 40% on average.

Interpreting these religious kids in such a bad light is like labeling a man who tips 18% and another who tips 20%, and judging one as meaner than the other.

It also shows that religious children are more sensitive to injustice. Which I would think is a good thing.

http://www.cell.com/cms/attachment/20400.../mmc2.pdf.

And that main problem with the study is that it doesn't factor demographic difference, or highlight other variables that are likely to be factors here, among the religious and non-religious being surveyed, which I think has more to do with the discrepancies than anything else here.

Either way, it appears the study is being politically milked for more than it's worth, particularly in the way it's being used to represent mean spirited religious children.

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08-11-2015, 09:29 AM
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(08-11-2015 08:39 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  ... It also shows that religious children are more sensitive to injustice.

Not quite. It shows that their parents perceive them this way. What the children actually do is judge others' transgressions more harshly, and deserving of harsher punishment.
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08-11-2015, 09:48 AM
RE: Forbes: religion makes kids more selfish
(08-11-2015 09:29 AM)Airportkid Wrote:  
(08-11-2015 08:39 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  ... It also shows that religious children are more sensitive to injustice.

Not quite. It shows that their parents perceive them this way. What the children actually do is judge others' transgressions more harshly, and deserving of harsher punishment.

Ah, thanks, i read that graph wrong.

But even in terms of harsher punishments, non-religious kids are about 51, and christian kids are at about 53. The differences are marginal, and likely not to have much of anything to do with religion per se, but the likely demographic discrepancies among non-religious and religious group. Certain demographics are more represented in non-religious groups that religious group. And the marginal differences between the groups are likely accounted for by that.

A better study would have indicated those variables, and it would be important to know what the demographic and culture makeup of non-religious group vs religious groups. There are already notable difference in between ethnic groups. Like white's tend to tip more than blacks. Whites are also more likely to be non-religious than other groups as well.

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