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18-01-2013, 11:38 PM
RE: Free Will
I agree. It bugs the hell out of me when people who are part of a group defend every fool thing other group members say simply because they have something in common.

However... "~just because it's vastly more complex you assume there is a difference."

Well, no I don't. I take logic claims at face value. You say there is no difference and I take that claim to its logical conclusion. That conclusion being that humans are no more responsible for their actions than rocks. You then claim that we are different but you have not provided any logical hypothesis for how, nor any empirical evidence supporting your claim. You simply say we're different. Right after you say we're not different.

And to clarify, you admit that we shouldn't jail rocks for crashing into our cars, nor lions for eating our pets but you maintain that humans are no different than rocks or lions, except that we are moral agents and they are not. In order to avoid hypocrisy and conjecture, you must explain the difference. And I'm not asking for empirical evidence... at this point, a valid hypothesis would suffice.

And yes, the moral implications of determinism are the most important consequence to consider. The world runs on morals, not on neurons. Why do you think it is that the ten commandments have lasted for thousands of years and the science of the human brain is a topic which puts most people to sleep?
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Free Will - Adenosis - 15-01-2013, 01:19 AM
RE: Free Will - Ape_Linkin - 15-01-2013, 01:33 AM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 15-01-2013, 01:54 AM
RE: Free Will - Aseptic Skeptic - 15-01-2013, 01:55 AM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 15-01-2013, 03:14 AM
RE: Free Will - ClydeLee - 15-01-2013, 06:35 AM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 15-01-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 15-01-2013, 06:57 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 15-01-2013, 10:53 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 15-01-2013, 11:36 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 16-01-2013, 12:27 AM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 16-01-2013, 01:29 AM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 16-01-2013, 02:21 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 16-01-2013, 07:05 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 16-01-2013, 08:20 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 17-01-2013, 12:04 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 18-01-2013, 07:29 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 18-01-2013, 09:50 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 18-01-2013, 10:14 PM
RE: Free Will - GirlyMan - 19-01-2013, 12:41 PM
RE: Free Will - kingschosen - 15-01-2013, 04:03 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 15-01-2013, 04:06 PM
RE: Free Will - kingschosen - 15-01-2013, 04:42 PM
RE: Free Will - Chas - 15-01-2013, 07:00 PM
RE: Free Will - Bucky Ball - 15-01-2013, 09:45 PM
RE: Free Will - Chas - 16-01-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 16-01-2013, 02:56 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 18-01-2013 11:38 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 21-01-2013, 12:07 PM
RE: Free Will - Chaos - 29-01-2013, 05:49 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 29-01-2013, 06:41 PM
RE: Free Will - Chaos - 30-01-2013, 04:25 AM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 30-01-2013, 08:13 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 30-01-2013, 08:54 PM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 30-01-2013, 09:02 PM
RE: Free Will - bbeljefe - 31-01-2013, 11:43 AM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 31-01-2013, 11:47 AM
RE: Free Will - Chaos - 31-01-2013, 08:23 AM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 31-01-2013, 10:26 AM
RE: Free Will - Chaos - 31-01-2013, 10:51 AM
RE: Free Will - Adenosis - 31-01-2013, 11:16 AM
RE: Free Will - fstratzero - 29-01-2013, 07:38 PM
RE: Free Will - BryanS - 30-01-2013, 12:34 AM
RE: Free Will - GirlyMan - 21-06-2014, 03:30 PM

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