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27-04-2010, 03:12 AM
 
RE: Free Will
i have a pretty much the same idea of free will as ceryle.

does anyone know the show numb3rs it captures my idea quite well. so heres my idea free will isnt the choice to pick anything you like. as ceryle said your choices are constrained by evolutionary and biological factors. but environmental factors also play a role such as a lousy abusive childhood or being raped or plain peer pressure. these events change what choices you are likely to make. so its more of a statistical probability. and past events also influence you for a long time. effectively defining who you are and what you think is right.

but what we end up choosing is higly dependent upon our attitude and happines about former choices. so this bit might still be free will or a very complicated equation that still governs our response. with a large range of variables to input to the point its hard to isolate them.

a favorite philosopher of mine put it this way man is made by contingent historic practices of power. which discipline a person to behave a certain way and think a certain way. we are not autonomic. we are heteronomic ( meaning we have little or no independent free will) the way we think is governed by the institutions of society and social sciences. we think of ourselves in the ways allowed to us by society. so we dont make society, society makes us.

and nice to add, it used to be the church, that was that institution now its been outsourced to other newly formed insitutions. though the function stays the same. the philosophers name is michel foucault by the way is someone wants to look him up.
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Free Will - Unbeliever - 26-04-2010, 08:55 PM
RE: Free Will - martinb59 - 26-04-2010, 09:13 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 26-04-2010, 09:15 PM
RE: Free Will - martinb59 - 26-04-2010, 09:22 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 26-04-2010, 09:27 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 26-04-2010, 09:33 PM
RE: Free Will - ashley.hunt60 - 26-04-2010, 09:37 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 26-04-2010, 09:46 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 26-04-2010, 10:54 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 26-04-2010, 11:09 PM
RE: Free Will - ulfark - 27-04-2010 03:12 AM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 07:59 AM
RE: Free Will - ulfark - 27-04-2010, 08:34 AM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 08:37 AM
RE: Free Will - Grassharpper - 27-04-2010, 09:45 AM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 09:52 AM
RE: Free Will - ulfark - 27-04-2010, 10:11 AM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 10:23 AM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 11:41 AM
RE: Free Will - Grassharpper - 27-04-2010, 01:19 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 01:19 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 01:43 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 04:10 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 04:59 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 05:05 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 05:06 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 05:10 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 05:35 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 05:52 PM
RE: Free Will - supermanlives1973 - 27-04-2010, 06:32 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 06:50 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 07:14 PM
RE: Free Will - supermanlives1973 - 27-04-2010, 08:11 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 07:17 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 07:29 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 27-04-2010, 08:29 PM
RE: Free Will - Ceryle - 27-04-2010, 08:31 PM
RE: Free Will - New Frontier - 28-04-2010, 11:38 PM
RE: Free Will - Unbeliever - 29-04-2010, 07:32 AM
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